SRAM

ilovedirt
ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
edited August 2014 in MTB general
I don't understand SRAM's product branding. Surely SRAM is drivetrain, truvativ is cranks and stuff, avid is brakes, rockshox is suspension? But now SRAM also have a couple of brakesets, cranksets etc. which are similar to their avid/truvativ counterparts? Why?
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B'Twin Triban 5

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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Weird innit.

    Probably some internal wrangling going on between the parent company being SRAM and the bought in brands to complete their product portfolio.

    Avid used to be the best back in the day of cantis, now it seems to have gone to shite, so perhaps they are trying to fool the uninformed?
  • lawman
    lawman Posts: 6,868
    Chunkers1980 wrote:
    Avid used to be the best back in the day of cantis, now it seems to have gone to shite, so perhaps they are trying to fool the uninformed?

    And SRAM's entry into the world of road hydraulic brakes went really well didn't it!! Avid and Truvativ have had a bit of a bad rep in recent years, the brakes weren't great and the cranks were never as good as shimano so I guess they've tried to re-brand them to extent, because RS forks had a decent rep they've remained untouched.
  • CitizenLee
    CitizenLee Posts: 2,227
    Proof will be in their new Guide brakes.
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    2015 Genesis CdF 10, 2014 Cube Hyde Race, 2012 NS Traffic, 2007 Specialized SX Trail, 2005 Specialized Demo 8
  • dusk
    dusk Posts: 583
    lawman wrote:
    Chunkers1980 wrote:
    Avid used to be the best back in the day of cantis, now it seems to have gone to shite, so perhaps they are trying to fool the uninformed?

    And SRAM's entry into the world of road hydraulic brakes went really well didn't it!! Avid and Truvativ have had a bit of a bad rep in recent years, the brakes weren't great and the cranks were never as good as shimano so I guess they've tried to re-brand them to extent, because RS forks had a decent rep they've remained untouched.
    this, if you had two pairs of identical cranks branded Sram and Truvativ which one would you have.....
    YT Wicked 160 ltd
    Cotic BFe
    DMR Trailstar
    Canyon Roadlite
  • The Northern Monkey
    The Northern Monkey Posts: 19,174
    dusk wrote:
    lawman wrote:
    Chunkers1980 wrote:
    Avid used to be the best back in the day of cantis, now it seems to have gone to shite, so perhaps they are trying to fool the uninformed?

    And SRAM's entry into the world of road hydraulic brakes went really well didn't it!! Avid and Truvativ have had a bit of a bad rep in recent years, the brakes weren't great and the cranks were never as good as shimano so I guess they've tried to re-brand them to extent, because RS forks had a decent rep they've remained untouched.
    this, if you had two pairs of identical cranks branded Sram and Truvativ which one would you have.....

    Shimano.
    Santa Cruz Butcher
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    To be fair, my descendants have done alright thus far. The retention system still isn't as good though. Problem is, all truvativ products look naff. Sticking a SRAM logo on them doesn't change that.
    Production Privee Shan

    B'Twin Triban 5
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    You can't run a smaller than 32t wheel on a 104 (OK 30T with threaded chainwheel), much bigger on a 120, so I doubt it (apart from possible double specific).
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • welshkev
    welshkev Posts: 9,690
    The Northern Monkey wrote:
    dusk wrote:
    lawman wrote:
    Chunkers1980 wrote:
    Avid used to be the best back in the day of cantis, now it seems to have gone to shite, so perhaps they are trying to fool the uninformed?

    And SRAM's entry into the world of road hydraulic brakes went really well didn't it!! Avid and Truvativ have had a bit of a bad rep in recent years, the brakes weren't great and the cranks were never as good as shimano so I guess they've tried to re-brand them to extent, because RS forks had a decent rep they've remained untouched.
    this, if you had two pairs of identical cranks branded Sram and Truvativ which one would you have.....

    Shimano.

    beat me to it...definitely this ^^^^ :lol:
  • CitizenLee
    CitizenLee Posts: 2,227
    Race Face, Wolftooth, Blackspire, NSB etc all make a 30t 104 BCD ring.

    It's the 28t that won't fit, needs 96 BCD.
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    NukeProof Mega FR 2012
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    2015 Genesis CdF 10, 2014 Cube Hyde Race, 2012 NS Traffic, 2007 Specialized SX Trail, 2005 Specialized Demo 8
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    And as far as I am aware alloy those are threaded and don't take a full female chainring bolt through them.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • CitizenLee
    CitizenLee Posts: 2,227
    The Rookie wrote:
    And as far as I am aware alloy those are threaded and don't take a full female chainring bolt through them.

    You just need longer bolts, which I'm sure most of us have in our toolbox anyway. The important fact is they work with 104BCD cranks.
    Current:
    NukeProof Mega FR 2012
    Cube NuRoad 2018
    Previous:
    2015 Genesis CdF 10, 2014 Cube Hyde Race, 2012 NS Traffic, 2007 Specialized SX Trail, 2005 Specialized Demo 8
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The Rookie wrote:
    You can't run a smaller than 32t wheel on a 104 (OK 30T with threaded chainwheel), much bigger on a 120, so I doubt it (apart from possible double specific).
    Really, never knew....oh yes sorry I did know that!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • CitizenLee
    CitizenLee Posts: 2,227
    Yeah you sounded confused so I was just clarifying it is possible :)
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    Cube NuRoad 2018
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    2015 Genesis CdF 10, 2014 Cube Hyde Race, 2012 NS Traffic, 2007 Specialized SX Trail, 2005 Specialized Demo 8
  • dusk
    dusk Posts: 583
    I don't get why Sram make cranks which can take a direct mount chainring and then come up with a proprietary bcd to fit smaller chainrings???
    YT Wicked 160 ltd
    Cotic BFe
    DMR Trailstar
    Canyon Roadlite
  • Dick Scruttock
    Dick Scruttock Posts: 2,533
    dusk wrote:
    I don't get why Sram make cranks which can take a direct mount chainring and then come up with a proprietary bcd to fit smaller chainrings???

    So you can remove the chainring without removing the crank.
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    You thinking XX1? If so yes, it's so you can swap chainrings without removing the cranks.

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