New tyres needed

maharg22

Hi folks

I'm in the market for a new set of tyres for my roadie. Thing is there is so much choice.....

Currently I have 'Slicks' on as was supplied on the bike almost 3 years ago I think they are Vittoria's. They are however past it and need replacing sooner rather than later.

There are so many on the market I am somewhat rather confused. The two I have looked at are both Continentals, GP4000S II and GP4 Seasons. The size I nee is 700x25c so if any one can recommend something else then lets hear from you, may also look at replacing the tubes too.

Thanks in advance

Ant

birdie23

I use the original GP4000s in 700x25c. Done over 3000 all weather miles and I've had no issues with them at all.

danlikesbikes

The 4 seasons are good have them on my winter bike which gets used a lot, as the name says they are good for all year round riding. A little heavier and better protected from punctures but I have to say I like mine. You do have a few other options thou hand am sure others will tell you their fav choices too if not for conti's

holiver

There's a massive number of threads on tyres, so I would suggest liberal use of the search function.

It normally comes down to Continental, Michelin and sometimes Vittoria depending on what purpose you are trying to fulfill.

drlodge

Assume you want these as fairly fast year-round tyres, so as well as GP4000S and GP4Season's there's also the Michelin Pro 4 Service Course to consider. I consider GP4Seasons as more robust than the other two, with the Pro4SC being a little more resistant to slashes than GP4000S.

northpole

As drlodge says!

I tried GP4000s this year for the first time and I have suffered one tyre completely destroyed due to a slash in the side wall and a second tyre has developed a very similar looking problem, albeit not so serious. What's odd is that I've not experienced this problem in many years cycling with other tyres.

I use the GP4Seasons on my commuting bike and they are good all year round tyres - I suspect Schwalbe Durano provide more protection (comments from a friend) but I haven't tried them. I was very impressed with the Michelin Pro4 Service Course AND they are remarkably good value - well worth a punt in my opinion.

Peter

dennisn

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

birdie23

northpole wrote:

As drlodge says!

I tried GP4000s this year for the first time and I have suffered one tyre completely destroyed due to a slash in the side wall and a second tyre has developed a very similar looking problem, albeit not so serious. What's odd is that I've not experienced this problem in many years cycling with other tyres.

I use the GP4Seasons on my commuting bike and they are good all year round tyres - I suspect Schwalbe Durano provide more protection (comments from a friend) but I haven't tried them. I was very impressed with the Michelin Pro4 Service Course AND they are remarkably good value - well worth a punt in my opinion.

Peter

Re: Durano's

I have used Durano S tyres for a little while. Puncture protection was decent, I maybe had one or two punctures. The standard version should be better. Unfortunately the S only comes in 23c. Though, to be honest, I'd go with the GP4000s if speed is a consideration as I found them both faster and more durable than Durano S. I'd say rolling wise they were the best I've tried bar Ultremo ZXs but they aren't even robust enough for summer imo.

sloppyschleckonds

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

Whats the Lidl/ Aldi equivalent in the US of A Dennis?

dennisn

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

Whats the Lidl/ Aldi equivalent in the US of A Dennis?

Best prices seem to be either Nashbar or Performance Bike. They tend to deal more in lower and middle end stuff with Performance carrying a fair selection of upper end things. Nashbar seems to always have really good deals on what you might call "last years stuff". i.e. when 9000 DA came out they had some nice prices on 7900 DA. That kind of thing.
For high end stuff over here, my two favorites are Colorado Cyclist and Excel Sports Boulder.
For "weight weenies" try fairwheelbikes.com

keef66

dennisn wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

Whats the Lidl/ Aldi equivalent in the US of A Dennis?

Best prices seem to be either Nashbar or Performance Bike. They tend to deal more in lower and middle end stuff with Performance carrying a fair selection of upper end things. Nashbar seems to always have really good deals on what you might call "last years stuff". i.e. when 9000 DA came out they had some nice prices on 7900 DA. That kind of thing.
For high end stuff over here, my two favorites are Colorado Cyclist and Excel Sports Boulder.
For "weight weenies" try fairwheelbikes.com

I think he's asking if you have anything somewhat more down-market that Walmart?

dennisn

keef66 wrote:

dennisn wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

Whats the Lidl/ Aldi equivalent in the US of A Dennis?

Best prices seem to be either Nashbar or Performance Bike. They tend to deal more in lower and middle end stuff with Performance carrying a fair selection of upper end things. Nashbar seems to always have really good deals on what you might call "last years stuff". i.e. when 9000 DA came out they had some nice prices on 7900 DA. That kind of thing.
For high end stuff over here, my two favorites are Colorado Cyclist and Excel Sports Boulder.
For "weight weenies" try fairwheelbikes.com

I think he's asking if you have anything somewhat more down-market that Walmart?

Opps, my bad. More "downmarket than Walmart"? That's a tough one. :?

ai_1

keef66 wrote:

dennisn wrote:

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

Whats the Lidl/ Aldi equivalent in the US of A Dennis?

Best prices seem to be either Nashbar or Performance Bike. They tend to deal more in lower and middle end stuff with Performance carrying a fair selection of upper end things. Nashbar seems to always have really good deals on what you might call "last years stuff". i.e. when 9000 DA came out they had some nice prices on 7900 DA. That kind of thing.
For high end stuff over here, my two favorites are Colorado Cyclist and Excel Sports Boulder.
For "weight weenies" try fairwheelbikes.com

I think he's asking if you have anything somewhat more down-market that Walmart?

Would you say Lidl/Aldi are downmarket of Walmart?
Don't think I would. They're a slightly different sort of shop really but I don't think they're downmarket as such....I may be wrong, it's along time since I was in a Walmart.

maharg22

dennisn wrote:

Sort of off topic but I don't wait until I need new tires to buy them. I'm always looking for discounts from whomever rather than scrounging around trying to find a good price and needing them immediately.

I am looking for the wetter colder months, not immediately. I still have a few hundred miles left on the originals even though they are a couple of years old now.

blackpoolkev

I use Michelin, they're good for 4000 miles without punctures
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/tyres-road-tri-track-folding-michelin-pro-4-sc-race-twinpack-2/michtyrf215
No 25mm currently in stock, but lots of 23mm. They will fit and ride very similar to 25's. Lots of colours but black is best when it comes to tyres.

ai_1

blackpoolkev wrote:

....No 25mm currently in stock, but lots of 23mm. They will fit and ride very similar to 25's....

Huh?
There's a big difference between Pro 4 SC 23mm and 25mm tyres. Apparently the 23s are in fact a bit smaller than 23mm and the 25s are in fact over 27mm so the difference between these tyres is very significant.

maharg22

GP4 Seasons attached to the bike after a lot (Yes Lots) of sweary words. I'm sure it wasnt this hard when I was a young lad.

Giving it a run out in the morning prior to a bike run with the folk from work on Friday....

blackpoolkev

Ai_1 wrote:

blackpoolkev wrote:

....No 25mm currently in stock, but lots of 23mm. They will fit and ride very similar to 25's....

Huh?
There's a big difference between Pro 4 SC 23mm and 25mm tyres. Apparently the 23s are in fact a bit smaller than 23mm and the 25s are in fact over 27mm so the difference between these tyres is very significant.

Okay, Michelin obviously don't know how big their tyres are.

Fishboyz

Been through a few 25 clinchers recently and the conti gp4000 is a really solid tyre and probably the one to beat, they do come up quite large though, Schwable Ultemo 25's are very good and look amazing and come up a tiny bit less wide in my experience, the michies pro4 25's are more like 28's. As all rounders these are pretty good and usually some bargains around. Vitoria and others are a bit more specialist and start getting a bit expensive

mangetout_rodney

I have GP4000S II on the summer bike and GP4 Seasons on the winter bike.

Very happy with both- I could probably have 4000s II's on the winter bike but I like having a bit more grip in the wet.