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£300 ish wheel set

tomwaterfalltomwaterfall Posts: 26
edited August 2014 in Road buying advice
Sorry guys its another wheel set thread. Basically I've just bought myself a new cervelo R3 105 and in the coming months/at some point in the future I'll be looking to upgrade/change the fairly badly reviewed stock wheels that it comes with. I just wanted to get a good idea whats the best options for when I can eventually afford them.
Most of the threads i've read up on are fairly old and thus the wheels seem to have changed a lot from then, I think anyway.

So i was wondering whats the best value wheel set for up to and around £300? The bike won't be used for racing just leisurely rides and also I'm a fairly light rider (Around 70kgs) so being able to sustain heavy weight is not an issue!
Also from personal experience I'm not too sure whether I want to have white hubs again (as cleaning them was such a pain in the censored last time!) I've heard about campy zondas,fulcrum racing 3's,mavics,braccianos etc.
Thanks

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  • sloppyschleckondssloppyschleckonds Posts: 8,019
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs
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  • macleod113macleod113 Posts: 560
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs

    I have some of these on order from Strada. Had a nice chat with Jonathan and we discussed my requirements and as a heavier rider got a higher spoke count but got them for under £300. A 5 weekbuild time though.
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    A 5 weekbuild time though.

    You'll be pleased to know it takes 2 hours... :wink:
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  • Slo Mo JonesSlo Mo Jones Posts: 272
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs

    I have some of these on order from Strada. Had a nice chat with Jonathan and we discussed my requirements and as a heavier rider got a higher spoke count but got them for under £300. A 5 weekbuild time though.

    Other than your weight, what requirements did you discuss?
  • tomwaterfalltomwaterfall Posts: 26
    any more suggestions chaps?
  • macleod113macleod113 Posts: 560
    Slo Mo Jones wrote:
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs

    I have some of these on order from Strada. Had a nice chat with Jonathan and we discussed my requirements and as a heavier rider got a higher spoke count but got them for under £300. A 5 weekbuild time though.

    Other than your weight, what requirements did you discuss?

    We discussed type of use (lots of commuting), mileage, weather they will be used in, budget, colour scheme and most importantly to me was the weight

    Ugo - can I tell them you said that so I can expect deliveryon Friday :D
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    Ugo - can I tell them you said that so I can expect deliveryon Friday :D

    No, but I don't understand how one can have a 5 weeks backlog on a job that takes 2 hours... even logistically it's hard to have it down so accurately (unless they are out of stock of Archetype, but that's not the case as they are in stock). But it seems the modern trend... you need to book an appointment months in advance for everything.
    For a weekend away you need to book the restaurants 4 weeks in advance these days... you need to know what you want to eat for your Christmas work lunch in September... in East Germany you had to wait 12 years to get a Trabant, I see we are heading in the same direction... :wink:
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  • Slo Mo JonesSlo Mo Jones Posts: 272
    edited August 2014
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    Slo Mo Jones wrote:
    MacLeod113 wrote:
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs

    I have some of these on order from Strada. Had a nice chat with Jonathan and we discussed my requirements and as a heavier rider got a higher spoke count but got them for under £300. A 5 weekbuild time though.

    Other than your weight, what requirements did you discuss?

    We discussed type of use (lots of commuting), mileage, weather they will be used in, budget, colour scheme and most importantly to me was the weight

    Ugo - can I tell them you said that so I can expect deliveryon Friday :D

    What alternatives did he / you consider?

    Was your budget £300?
  • drlodgedrlodge Posts: 4,826
    SloppySchleckonds wrote:
    Best value would probably be some Archetype H Plus Son rims on 105 hubs

    This, or a set of Factory Zondas.
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  • macleod113macleod113 Posts: 560
    Yes, i did mention my budget and these seemed appropriate. didn't consider any others
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  • Slo Mo JonesSlo Mo Jones Posts: 272
    The reason I ask, Macleod, is because you often see people recommending handbuilts in reply to questions about factory wheels. One of the main benefits that's often trotted out is that they can be "tailored to your specific requirements" by an experienced wheel builder. Some also use the phrase "suit your riding style", without any explanation as to what this means. This always sounds to me a bit like guff, and a way of making simple things sound complicated.

    Colour, budget, spoke count, ease of maintenance, I'm right with you.
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    Slo Mo Jones wrote:
    Some also use the phrase "suit your riding style", without any explanation as to what this means. This always sounds to me a bit like guff, and a way of making simple things sound complicated.

    It means some riders have specific requirements, they might like a very stiff rear wheel as they race and they put a lot of watts for short periods of time and want to optimise power transfer, others prefer a wheel which over a 600 Km audax gives a more forgiving ride... I suppose you can call it "riding style", although most people seem to be more worried bout colour, look and weight to be honest... :roll:
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  • crakercraker Posts: 1,739
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    you need to know what you want to eat for your Christmas work lunch in September... :

    I got back from a lunchtime run yesterday and was required to fill in my Christmas menu choices. Maybe it takes them that long to breed the turkey. Makes you feel all festive though, right?
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    Cocktail of Prawns and Oak Smoked Salmon - spicy Bloody Mary sauce
    Hot Vichyssoise - Creamy Leek and Potato Soup - baked cheese and garlic croutons

    Traditional Roast Breast of Gloucestershire Turkey with pigs in blankets, homemade seasoning, fresh cranberry sauce.
    4 Hour Slow-cooked Blade of Beef with red wine, tawny port, shallots, garlic forest mushrooms.
    Baked Goats Cheese and Caramelised Onion Tarte Tatin (v).

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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    craker wrote:

    I got back from a lunchtime run yesterday and was required to fill in my Christmas menu choices. Maybe it takes them that long to breed the turkey. Makes you feel all festive though, right?

    I think at the Fat Duck they must have opened the bookings for September... 2015 that is...
    Or you can book to have a frame built for 2016... :?

    My local lebanese take-away can do falafel in a wrap freshly fried on the spot in 5 minutes with no booking required... :wink:
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  • DiscoBoyDiscoBoy Posts: 905
    Archetypes on Novatec hubs gets my vote.

    http://wodenonline.myshopify.com/collec ... ubs-silver
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  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    DiscoBoy wrote:
    Archetypes on Novatec hubs gets my vote.

    http://wodenonline.myshopify.com/collec ... ubs-silver


    We really have to buy Malcolm a camera for Christmas... :wink:
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  • tomwaterfalltomwaterfall Posts: 26
    Do the hplussons ride/feel much different to campy zondas? (if anyone has any experience)
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 28,019
    tomwaterfall wrote:
    Do the hplussons ride/feel much different to campy zondas? (if anyone has any experience)

    Nothing is much different in modern bikes... they all have 99% the same stuff on... you need a full suspension mountain bike to experience something different... for something much different, you are probably looking at a Penny Farthing
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  • tomwaterfalltomwaterfall Posts: 26
    maybe give the penny farthing a miss then ;) cheers ugo
  • VslowpaceVslowpace Posts: 189
    Zondas at £250 are a very good value wheel.
  • tomwaterfalltomwaterfall Posts: 26
    where are they £250 mate? Wiggle?
  • ride_wheneverride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    Hopes on open pro or alphas can be got for 323 I think
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  • HebdenBikerHebdenBiker Posts: 787
    tomwaterfall wrote:
    where are they £250 mate? Wiggle?

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  • bluemoon17bluemoon17 Posts: 718
    HebdenBiker wrote:
    tomwaterfall wrote:
    where are they £250 mate? Wiggle?

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  • dinyulldinyull Posts: 2,979
    I'd give 4thebike.de a look. German website but someone on here recommended I give them a look and managed to bag a pair of Mavic Cosmic Elite's for £190 in December - they retail here for about £350.
  • cyclecliniccycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    What the H plus son rim does as any wider rim will do is give you a wider tyre profile which a slightly more comfortable ride and if you push into the corners hard enough better handling. You should feel that no matter the frame. However the effect is not so noticable on some tyres as they hardly spread when put on a wider rim (Veloflex corsa's). That is the problem that some people find when comparing wheels.

    It really does depend on what you want though. Sounds like you are a Zonda or similar man to me.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • kevin_stephenskevin_stephens Posts: 184
    I'm very pleased with these
    http://www.cycledivision.co.uk/product- ... id133.html
    A little over your budget but a great choice for the lighter rider
    I want to climb hills so badly;
    and I climb hills so badly
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