Wall anchor

markhewitt1978

I've been looking at securing my bike a bit better since it's stored in a conservatory, hung up on a brick (effectively outside) wall.

The idea being that I use a heavy duty chain or D-lock to secure the frame to the wall to deter a thief just picking up the bike and walking off.

I've discovered floor anchors which won't really work as my bike is hung up on the wall, but I think some of them can be used on walls too? Any recommendations or has anyone installed one on a brick wall?

This is the sort of thing I was looking at http://lockitt.com/Lockitt/product/SPAN/ANPS7500.html (sorry American site)

cattytown

Declaration: I know the guys that run this place worth a word with them.

http://securityforbikes.com/bicycle-security-advice.php

A ground anchor can be fixed to a wall, but will tend to look intrusive.

monkimark

There are a few wall mounted bike hangers on the market with integrated fixings/holes to take a lock - they'll certainly be a neater solution.
Something like this, I've seen one that looks like a shelf as well which looked pretty neat http://www.evanscycles.com/products/cyc ... rrency=GBP

Fixing into brick will be a bit weaker than fixing into concrete but I can't see it making a difference in real life.

meesterbond

cattytown wrote:

Declaration: I know the guys that run this place worth a word with them.

http://securityforbikes.com/bicycle-security-advice.php

A ground anchor can be fixed to a wall, but will tend to look intrusive.

I don't know the guys who run this but have used it them a couple of times and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. I've got three of the Torc Ground Anchors (shown in the US link in the OP) securing six bikes and I'm not sure they'll ever be coming out. If they're inside though, they're not very pretty.

Delivery was within a day or two of ordering and the products are excellent. A word of warning though - when they say 19mm chains are probably overkill for bikes, they're not wrong... They weigh a ton.

Drop them an email - they're usually answered same day and very helpful although the website gives you everything you really need.

poppit

This is what I use,
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/abus/bracket-wa-50-wall-anchor-ec006188
The largest chain that will fit through them is the 11mm one.

markhewitt1978

poppit wrote:

This is what I use,
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/abus/bracket-wa-50-wall-anchor-ec006188
The largest chain that will fit through them is the 11mm one.

Thanks, that looks pretty much like what I was looking for. How easy is it to install and how resistant is it to someone just coming along with a screwdriver?

As ever with these things I don't expect it to resist an attack where the thief had a full day and came with proper equipment, just that a someone manages to kick down the door, sees the security arrangement and thinks better of it.

markhewitt1978

This is the other one I've been looking at http://www.evanscycles.com/products/kry ... RRWidgetID

schlepcycling

meesterbond wrote:

cattytown wrote:

Declaration: I know the guys that run this place worth a word with them.

http://securityforbikes.com/bicycle-security-advice.php

A ground anchor can be fixed to a wall, but will tend to look intrusive.

I don't know the guys who run this but have used it them a couple of times and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. I've got three of the Torc Ground Anchors (shown in the US link in the OP) securing six bikes and I'm not sure they'll ever be coming out. If they're inside though, they're not very pretty.

Delivery was within a day or two of ordering and the products are excellent. A word of warning though - when they say 19mm chains are probably overkill for bikes, they're not wrong... They weigh a ton.

Drop them an email - they're usually answered same day and very helpful although the website gives you everything you really need.

I too don't work for or know this guy but can also highly recommend their ground anchor and use it as the OP wants to fixed into a brick wall.

Bar Shaker

Our bikes are chained to these...

http://www.pjbsecurity.co.uk/new-taurus ... ing-anchor



Fix the D ring high so it supports the weight of the chain. We also use PJB chains and they weight a lot!!

http://www.pjbsecurity.co.uk/secure-a-b ... -m50d-lock

defycomp2

Try this:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/masterlock-wall-and-floor-anchor-large-160mm/49778
We have one of these and one from Oxford Products and use a 2 of these:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/master-lock-0-9m-hardened-steel-security-chain-10mm-d-lock-padlock/71495
to secure them as well as a range of other cables and a D lock around the frame and the anchor.

sungod

a thief with time, opportunity and an angle grinder can cut anything - including the bike if necessary, making off with the remains to strip and sell as parts

so really you need 'only' to protect against the less equipped/less adept scumbags

fit a floor/wall anchor, use expansion bolts with tamper proof heads - plugs can easily be levered out, and plain bolts obviously can be quickly removed

don't use a cable, they're trivial to cut

use either a big u-lock such as xena xul, or an equally robust chain

mount it at a height that prevents croppers being used

fit an alarm, a seriously loud one - in the city people ignore alarms, there are too many going off, but if you use one that generates damaging sound levels the scum may simply decide to go elsewhere, but the alarm needs to be resistant to simple attack with hammer etc.

poppit

markhewitt1978 wrote:

poppit wrote:

This is what I use,
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/abus/bracket-wa-50-wall-anchor-ec006188
The largest chain that will fit through them is the 11mm one.

Thanks, that looks pretty much like what I was looking for. How easy is it to install and how resistant is it to someone just coming along with a screwdriver?

As ever with these things I don't expect it to resist an attack where the thief had a full day and came with proper equipment, just that a someone manages to kick down the door, sees the security arrangement and thinks better of it.

Once you get the right drill bits its pretty easy. A screwdriver wouldn't budge it, don't think you could even get it off the wall with a crowbar, you'd pull the brick out first! The covers for the bolts are hammered in metal discs, once they're in that is it.

kingstonian

sungod wrote:

a thief with time, opportunity and an angle grinder can cut anything - including the bike if necessary, making off with the remains to strip and sell as parts

so really you need 'only' to protect against the less equipped/less adept scumbags

fit a floor/wall anchor, use expansion bolts with tamper proof heads - plugs can easily be levered out, and plain bolts obviously can be quickly removed

don't use a cable, they're trivial to cut

use either a big u-lock such as xena xul, or an equally robust chain

mount it at a height that prevents croppers being used

fit an alarm, a seriously loud one - in the city people ignore alarms, there are too many going off, but if you use one that generates damaging sound levels the scum may simply decide to go elsewhere, but the alarm needs to be resistant to simple attack with hammer etc.

Fried of mine is a copper - he said they've had a few instances of seriously loud portable alarms being submerged in water. That shuts them up pretty swiftly.

alex222

Didn't know about the Shed Shackle, just what I need as there is no concrete under my shed. Although it would mean having to move the best bike out of the house.

daniel_b

poppit wrote:

This is what I use,
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/abus/bracket-wa-50-wall-anchor-ec006188
The largest chain that will fit through them is the 11mm one.

These are not currently at such a bargain price, but a kind soul posted it on the bargains thread a few months ago, as Amazon were selling them for less than £9 each!
Might be worth sticking a price watch on, unless you are desperately in need, as they may come down again shortly.

poppit

Daniel B wrote:

poppit wrote:

This is what I use,
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/abus/bracket-wa-50-wall-anchor-ec006188
The largest chain that will fit through them is the 11mm one.

These are not currently at such a bargain price, but a kind soul posted it on the bargains thread a few months ago, as Amazon were selling them for less than £9 each!
Might be worth sticking a price watch on, unless you are desperately in need, as they may come down again shortly.

Yes, I bought mine from Amazon, was just easier to find a link to Evans. I've got 4 installed in my lock up.

bernithebiker

PIR sensor linked to an anti-burglar smoke machine.

If they can't see what they're doing, they can't nick it.

markhewitt1978

Got a wall anchor from Halfords and secured it to the wall and so far so good.

It came with a couple of ball bearings which you can hammer into the screw heads. But what happens if you want to remove the anchor, is there a way to do it?

danlikesbikes

Have 2 of these myself and they are pretty good IMHO

http://www.tuskstore.com/index.php/cPath/24

timothyw

I got a couple of these for my shed:

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/tools-m ... anka-point

Pretty cheap (so I bought a couple and use two locks..), better than nothing, have no particular illusions that the bike is secure against a determined thief if I'm not around, but certainly makes the job of stealing a lot more complicated. Seems a decent compromise for a shed in a rented dwelling though.

markhewitt1978

Yeah my 'use case' is that the local scrotes (of which there are many) get into the porch because we forgot to lock up or something they won't be able to just pick the bike up and be off with it. It would take time and effort.