Anybody got a 53cm Ritchey Road Logic 2.0?

JonEdwards

Would like to try one for size, but nobody seems to have demo bikes in stock.

Cheers!

Jon

Grill

I have one. What bike in what size are you riding now?

JonEdwards

I'm currently on a medium Santa Cruz Roadster - 55cm TT, 16cm HT with a 11cm stem. So not a millions miles away fit wise. (I'm 1.78m tall)

As much as anything I want to see what the ride and handling are like. I prefer steel/ti mountainbikes to ally ones - would like to make sure the same is true of (nicer) steel roadies before commiting to buying one. I have a Condor Pista steel fixie that's much deader/harsher than the Roadster, so I'm aware it's not as simple as "steel is real".

Grill - if you don't mind me asking - where are you based? Nowhere near Sheffield perchance...?

Cheers,

Jon

Grill

Naw I'm in Brizzle. I'm 1.8m and all my other bikes have been medium. Worst case you'll have a few spacers.

gwillis

I've got one 53cm and I'm a towering 5ft 8 again based in gwent

bendertherobot

Right then, 5ft 10.

53 or 55?

Reason is, I ride a 52cm Condor and just feel it's too small. I've always been comfortable on bigger bikes (had a 56 Croix de Fer and have a 55 Bivio X).

bmxboy10

55 I think

drlodge

At 5' 10" I'd say a 54 Are you longer in the leg or the torso? I'm 5' 8.5" and longer in the leg so shorter in the torso, and anything bigger than 54 is too much of a reach. Easier to make a small frame bigger than a big frame smaller BUT you then have a bigger drop from saddle to bars

I'd go for the 53 given a choice, unless you want a long head tube in which case the 55...

bendertherobot

Torso I reckon. My inside leg is a mere 31

bendertherobot

Right,

Here's the thing.

I have a 55cm Bivio. That, to me, feels right. It has a TT of 545. I run it with a 100mm stem.

I have a 52cm Acciaio. That feels too small. It has a TT of 537. I run it with a 110mm stem.

The 55cm Ritchey is 548 actual plays 560 effective.

I assume that my Condor measurements are actual and that, therefore, going by the Bivio TT Ritchey's actual 548 is close enough (I may need a 90mm stem on this occasion).

bmxboy10

Surely you can only compare the "effective" TTs?

bmxboy10

solboy10 wrote:

Surely you can only compare the "effective" TTs?

BTW you are in the same boat as me which is why I did not get one!

bendertherobot

I don't know what the effective top tube on the acciaio is though

styxd

the effective top tubes of the condor's are on their geometry chart.

The 55cm Ritchey has a ett that's 15mm longer than your bivio. Plus the head angle is 1.5 degrees steeper which would throw your bars further forward. You'd be running an 80mm stem - not ideal. Go for the 53cm one.

The sizing on the Ritchey frames is daft though.

bendertherobot

Ta. Why daft?

styxd

bendertherobot wrote:

Ta. Why daft?

It seems like there should be an extra size between a 57 and a 59. The seat angles are too steep on the larger sizes, and the head and seat tubes are too short aswell.

bendertherobot

Ah, ok, thanks.

Right, sounds like a 53. Just have to find one now. Charlie might have one. Halfords as well, bizarrely.

bendertherobot

Just a thought though. The 52 Condor IS too small. Only alternative is the 55. That has an effective a mere 0.5cm shorter than the 55 Ritchey.

Head tube angle is the same. Is it likely to be too big at 5ft 10?

styxd

bendertherobot wrote:

Ah, ok, thanks.

Right, sounds like a 53. Just have to find one now. Charlie might have one. Halfords as well, bizarrely.

Whether the 53 will even fit is another question. The top tube still looks to be 8mm longer than the 52cm acciaio, the head tube is also 1 degree steeper and the length of the headtube is 5mm shorter so you'll end up with even more spacers. Or get used to running more drop.

bendertherobot

Food for thought. It's a minefield

styxd

bendertherobot wrote:

Food for thought. It's a minefield

Yup. Condors headtubes are too long, the Ritcheys are too short. I reckon the 55 Ritchey would fit you, but you'd have to use a short stem. FWIW, the 55 Ritchey looks to be close to a 56cm Cannondale CAAD 10, try one of them for size. Although a couple of my mates who are about your height both have 54cm cannondales.

Usually, if it looks right, then it is right. If you need super short stems or stacks of spacers then I'd say the bike is the wrong size (generally). Although you could alos say this is a load of bollox! But I dont bother buying a bike if I've got to use a mountain of spacers or shorter than a 130mm stem.

bendertherobot

Ta!

My issue at the moment is that I can see, even with a 110 stem, the front hub most of the time. And, when out of the saddle, with a stem any shorter used to hit the bars.

The one useful thing I can say is that I rode a 56cm Croix de Fer for years. Admittedly with a shorter stem but always found that pretty manageable.

styxd

bendertherobot wrote:

My issue at the moment is that I can see, even with a 110 stem, the front hub most of the time.

THat doesnt determine whether a bike fits or doesnt fit.

bendertherobot

Indeed. But, I've never had it on any other bikes (that fit well).

bmxboy10

Bendertherobot pay a bit more and get a custom 853 from rourke. You have the same problem as me regarding fit so have my sympathy :roll:

bendertherobot

That's my budget limit I'm afraid. It's 55cm Acciaio or Ritchey.

styxd

there were some cheap Genesis Volare frames on ebay if it's steel you're after.

bendertherobot

If they were a nicer colour I'd certainly consider them!

Grill

Got mine here: http://www.acycles.co.uk/ritchey-road-logic-20-frame-and-carbon-fork-kit-grey-6147.html

bendertherobot

Ta. Westbrook is only £20 more and, on this occasion, seems a bit mad not to use the 0% option.

styxd

What size are you going to go for?

Any pics of you on your current bike? A bikeradar forum bike fit might come in useful.