Changed my mind on helmets ...

andrewc3142
andrewc3142 Posts: 906
edited July 2014 in Commuting chat
... at least for commuting.

No intention to set off one of those boring helmet debates, just my thoughts from today.

I got knocked off for the second time (the first being 4 years ago when a guy drove at speed through a mini-roundabout I was on without looking or slowing down). Pulling off from some lights on the Embankment a guy clipped my bars with his mirror and off I came. Nothing I could have done, in hindsight or otherwise.

He stopped (as did some cyclists - many thanks), was clearly upset and seemed a decent guy who really wasn't trying to be aggressive or anything.

Checked over by A&E and all good, apart from a cartoon-sized bump on the side of my forehead and some impressive road-rash on shoulder, arm and leg. The guy has already ordered me direct replacement jersey and bib-shorts and the bike is fine.

However, it could have been a lot worse, very easily.

I wouldn't hold myself out to be any kind of expert rider. However, I'm not a newbie, with over 40 years' experience, a 50km commute each way several times a week, a few sportives a year, cycle touring for most holidays and general utility cycling for shopping, local trips, etc.

I've never worn a helmet except for the odd event that requires one.

Based on today, I won't become one of those types who bangs on about having to wear a helmet and I doubt I'll use one for local trips, or indeed for touring (usually France where the cycling environment is wholly different).

But I've just ordered one to wear for the commute.

Comments

  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    The future...

    comments on no serious injury to head
    comments on equivalent injuries to other parts of body so will you be ordering body armour?
    comments on anecdotal comment about how it could be worse

    Then
    comments on comments
    counter comments on comments about comments
    comments about the comments that countered the comments commenting on the comments

    Then
    ad hominem attacks on the OP, on the original commenters (including me), the mods and anyone who comments about helmets at any point
    Mods lock thread.

    Shall we just leave it here?
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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Let's just focus on the positives:

    Helmet or no helmet, OP, I'm glad you're ok.
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    Let's just focus on the positives:

    Helmet or no helmet, OP, I'm glad you're ok.

    Indeed!
  • andrewc3142
    andrewc3142 Posts: 906
    Mr Spider: thanks

    Kieran: I really, really don't want to start a helmet flame war. Life's too short.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,811
    Let's just focus on the positives:

    Helmet or no helmet, OP, I'm glad you're ok.

    Indeed!
    Very much so.
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    The future...

    comments on no serious injury to head
    comments on equivalent injuries to other parts of body so will you be ordering body armour?
    comments on anecdotal comment about how it could be worse

    Then
    comments on comments
    counter comments on comments about comments
    comments about the comments that countered the comments commenting on the comments

    Then
    ad hominem attacks on the OP, on the original commenters (including me), the mods and anyone who comments about helmets at any point
    Mods lock thread.

    Shall we just leave it here?

    What, without even mentioning rotational injuries? I think not!
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  • jds_1981
    jds_1981 Posts: 1,858
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.
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  • captain_kirk
    captain_kirk Posts: 105
    It's about time we started wrapping our bikes in bubble wrap. It's the only way to stop them getting damaged in accidents. Helmets won't protect your bike at all! :wink:


    (Glad you are ok OP!)
  • vimfuego
    vimfuego Posts: 1,783
    Don't you have bubble wrap on your helmet????? :roll:

    Glad you're OK BTW
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  • jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.
    Nobody told me we had a communication problem
  • Hot Orange
    Hot Orange Posts: 157
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.
    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Based on this and in light of the serious injury* to IT Boff's knee I think we should all start wearing knee pads.....

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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

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  • airbag
    airbag Posts: 201
    Just don't become one of those types that thinks wearing a helmet in a crash and not dying means not wearing a helmet in a crash means dying. As your own experience testifies, that is not the case.

    If I'm to be the temporarily self-appointed spokesman for helmet "sceptics"... that really is all. I don't think anyone opposes the idea of you wearing one to feel happy. I'm not even particularly sceptical, but some really do seem to find that request unreasonable and/or have trouble with this basic logic.
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Didnt we have a helmet debate when the guys from the bottom bracket started to seep into the rest of the forum? before they become fully trained?
    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,314
    rubertoe wrote:
    Didnt we have a helmet debate ...
    I am fairly certain that there has been substantially more than one debate prior to this.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • gbsahne001
    gbsahne001 Posts: 1,973
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

    if its a specialised lid, then they offer a 50% discount for replacements; send them an email or speak to them first but then you just send the damaged one to them, with a cheque and they'll send a new one back.
  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    gbsahne wrote:
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

    if its a specialised lid, then they offer a 50% discount for replacements; send them an email or speak to them first but then you just send the damaged one to them, with a cheque and they'll send a new one back.

    Spesh are now doing replacement wives at a 50% discount. How much do I have to damage my current wife before they'll consider sending me a new one?
    ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    Spesh are now doing replacement wives at a 50% discount. How much do I have to damage my current wife before they'll consider sending me a new one?

    I might even have to get married if they are doing this? Will it be a 2015 model or earlier?
    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,811
    rubertoe wrote:
    Spesh are now doing replacement wives at a 50% discount. How much do I have to damage my current wife before they'll consider sending me a new one?

    I might even have to get married if they are doing this? Will it be a 2015 model or earlier?
    :shock: Best to go pre 1995 at the very least I'd say.
    Sorry that's in very poor taste.
  • CiB
    CiB Posts: 6,098
    Veronese68 wrote:
    :shock: Best to go pre 1995 at the very least I'd say.
    Sorry that's in very poor taste.
    Having endured the wandering-mind tedium of 3 - three - school musical performances over this last week enlivened only by some unusual singing by girls with a good set of lungs on em and attributes that to a man exclude the word shy, I'd imagine a case could be made for the 95, 96, and even 97 models, at a push.

    :wink:

    edit for sanity... :)
  • rubertoe
    rubertoe Posts: 3,994
    CiB wrote:
    Veronese68 wrote:
    :shock: Best to go pre 1995 at the very least I'd say.
    Sorry that's in very poor taste.
    Having endured the wandering-mind tedium of 3 - three - school musical performances over this last week enlivened only by some unusual singing by girls with a good set of lungs on em and attributes that to a man exclude the word shy, I'd imagine a case could be made for the 95, 96, and even 97 models, at a push.

    :wink:

    edit for sanity... :)


    I thought my post felt abit jimmy saville when I wrote it.
    "If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

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  • Pufftmw
    Pufftmw Posts: 1,941
    Sketchley wrote:
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

    Divorce court + match.com


    Worked for me :mrgreen:

    Though did it the other way round (after I had left the incumbent wife of course)
  • drlodge
    drlodge Posts: 4,826
    Bontrager have a 3 year "damage" replacement program i.e. if its crash damaged wihin 3 years, they replace it FOC. If I recall correctly...
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  • Pufftmw wrote:
    Sketchley wrote:
    jds_1981 wrote:
    My wife majorly cracked her helmet day before yesterday. Stupidly, by throwing it on the floor in a hissy fit.

    Isn't there somewhere where you can get an exchange in incidents like this? It might cost a few quid but worth if to dispose of the offending article and get something that won't let you down when you most need it. I hope someone can tell us where because I too am considering exchanging my wife.

    Divorce court + match.com


    Worked for me :mrgreen:

    Though did it the other way round (after I had left the incumbent wife of course)

    You don't want one of them incumbent wives. Recumbent is the way to go everytime. :wink:
    Nobody told me we had a communication problem