Change Cycling Now

iainf72

Remember this mob?

Remember how Lemond was going to be parachuted in to the UCI?

Now, think about Lemond of Cycling.

*chuckle*

And I <heart> Greg. But really, what was more misguided, the Kimbo fund or CCN?

mulletmaster

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

rick_chasey

Surprises me you give it any thought Iain.

I barely knew about either .

above_the_cows

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

rick_chasey

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

I'd be a better commentator, even with a small stammer.

tailwindhome

iainf72 wrote:

Remember this mob?

Remember how Lemond was going to be parachuted in to the UCI?

Now, think about Lemond of Cycling.

*chuckle*

And I <heart> Greg. But really, what was more misguided, the Kimbo fund or CCN?

The mob have started to turn on Lemond. Not rabid enough in his condemnation of dopers.

above_the_cows

Rick Chasey wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

I'd be a better commentator, even with a small stammer.

But being a commentator no one would get to see your trouser collection. You'd have to come in front of the camera some times and give Stefano a run for his money.

rick_chasey

Should come on the BR drinks then.

above_the_cows

It's a bit far to cycle and there isn't a night bus.

salsiccia1

I do like Greg LeMond, but I can't watch that LeMond on Tour, it's car-crash.

However, although we might laugh at him heading Change Cycling Now, I think that was an important part of the groundswell against Fat Pat, so for his willingness to stand up I applaud him.

RichN95.

Salsiccia1 wrote:

I do like Greg LeMond, but I can't watch that LeMond on Tour, it's car-crash.

However, although we might laugh at him heading Change Cycling Now, I think that was an important part of the groundswell against Fat Pat, so for his willingness to stand up I applaud him.

The groundswell had sod all to do with removing McQuaid - it was down to Igor Makarov using his influence in revenge for Katusha being denied a WT licence.

Turfle

It's gonna be called "Flecha on Tour" by the end of next week.

I feel bad for Greg; the end of his sentences might be filled with pure wisdom, but he never actually gets to the end of his sentences.

above_the_cows

Turfle wrote:

It's gonna be called "Flecha on Tour" by the end of next week.

I feel bad for Greg; the end of his sentences might be filled with pure wisdom, but he never actually gets to the end of his sentences.

If he rode the Tour like he forms his sentences he'd still be cycling around the trading estates of Orleans and the USA would have no Tour winners.

DeVlaeminck

Am I the only one who quite likes Lemond on Tour then ? I like his enthusiasm, it's meant to be a lighthearted look at the race and delivers that, much prefer it to the ITV approach.

dolan_driver

I agree with DeVlaeminck, the Lemond show is not perfect but it is entertaining. Greg is no skilled TV show presenter but it is interesting to hear his assessment of each day's racing. What the Lemond show needs is someone other than Stefano unfortunately. His grasp of the English language is not good enough and he is not proficient enough at anchoring a show like that. It could be worse though, it could be the Virenque Show!

DD.

frenchfighter

I must check it out to see what is so bad about him. So far I have avoided hearing his commentary.

dougzz

In fairness sport is littered with greats that can't discuss it in an interesting manner.

DeVlaeminck

Dolan Driver wrote:

I agree with DeVlaeminck, the Lemond show is not perfect but it is entertaining. Greg is no skilled TV show presenter but it is interesting to hear his assessment of each day's racing. What the Lemond show needs is someone other than Stefano unfortunately. His grasp of the English language is not good enough and he is not proficient enough at anchoring a show like that. It could be worse though, it could be the Virenque Show!

DD.

Are you aware he is a friend of mine ?

mm1

RichN95 wrote:

The groundswell had sod all to do with removing McQuaid - it was down to Igor Makarov using his influence in revenge for Katusha being denied a WT licence.

Had a lot to do with Pat's miscalculation of the support he had from African and Asian federations. The vote was close.

dolan_driver

DeVlaeminck wrote:

Dolan Driver wrote:

I agree with DeVlaeminck, the Lemond show is not perfect but it is entertaining. Greg is no skilled TV show presenter but it is interesting to hear his assessment of each day's racing. What the Lemond show needs is someone other than Stefano unfortunately. His grasp of the English language is not good enough and he is not proficient enough at anchoring a show like that. It could be worse though, it could be the Virenque Show!

DD.

Are you aware he is a friend of mine ?

No, I wasn't and apologies if I have caused offence but that is just my opinion of how the Lemond show appears, for what it is worth. I would imagine that presenting a live segment immediately after each stage is very difficult, given that they are starting off with the same information as the viewer and are slowly receiving updates in their ear pieces as the show progresses. Still, it is an entertaining show and I'd listen to Greg and Stefano any day ahead of Phil and Paul!

DD.

DeVlaeminck

It's OK he's not really a friend, I just met* him at the Tour stage in Sheffield.



*stood at the urinal next to him at some M1 services near Bolsover

DeVlaeminck

That looks great at the top of the page doesn't it.

RichN95.

DeVlaeminck wrote:

It's OK he's not really a friend, I just met* him at the Tour stage in Sheffield.

*stood at the urinal next to him at some M1 services near Bolsover

By that standard I'm friends with Steven Gerrard (hotel at Bisham Abbey) and Simon Schama (Gatwick Airport)

ddraver

The Mum from Sugar Rush came in to the pub tonight and called me Babe...quite happy with that...

pottssteve

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

above_the_cows

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

Kind of.

alan_a

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

Almost post of the tour quality.

salsiccia1

Above The Cows wrote:

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

Kind of.

This a contender for post of the tour. You can almost hear ATC sighing as she typed it

pottssteve

Above The Cows wrote:

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

Kind of.

That's OK, so am I...

above_the_cows

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

pottssteve wrote:

Above The Cows wrote:

mulletmaster wrote:

I just find it remarkable that someone who relatively recently was at the very top of a massive sport, can come across so utterly clueless about it? It may just be his presentation skills or nervousness, but I would have expected those to have improved over a week in. He comes across like a total clown!

It is quite amazing. I don't like to get into the debates on 'I could do a better job than the commentators' because I know I couldn't, although I'd do better now I've got some new spectacles. However I 'know' I could do a better job than Lemond on Tour. I spend much of my working life basically talking in front of small to very large groups of people about things I don't actually know very much about while trying to sound authoritative and vaguely entertaining. I know more than Lemond seems to about the current peloton, can pronounce their names better (if he calls Michał Kwiatkowski Mike one more time, grrrr) and it would appear I can read a race better than he can too, add in the chutzpah and previous training and I'd be fine.

So, you're a teacher, then?!

Kind of.

That's OK, so am I...

Sometimes I feel more like a baby sitter and bum wiper for children that really are too old for such things i.e. adults.

bockers

Dolan Driver wrote:

Still, it is an entertaining show and I'd listen to Greg and Stefano any day ahead of Phil and Paul!

DD.

I'd rather listen to my Granny straining on her commode than listen to Phil and Paul these days.