H Plus Son Archetype max spoke tension?

munkster

Just building up a pair of these and given I have a spoke tension meter thought I might as well use it... Just cannot find an "official" max spoke tension number for them. Any ideas? I am assuming (from anecdotal build forum posts out there) that 120-130 is about right?

Edit: just thought I'd mention that these rims were a real joy to build with. Only my fifth set but much nicer than the four different other rim types I've used so far, and don't think it's solely down to my (hopefully) improving skills either.

ugo.santalucia

120-130 is the correct tension... but you can build them even more... I have seen a set at 170 KgF... :shock:

munkster

Great thanks - yeah they do look/feel like they might take a bit more to be honest! Reckon they're hovering around the 120 mark at the moment so may try an extra half turn all the way round ;-)

brettjmcc

They say 130 max when I asked

munkster

OK so I reckon DS spokes are all in range (122-137 on the chart) however NDS are only at around 60-70. Obviously I know that the NDS will always be (much?) lower tension but does 60-70 suggest I might take it up a little more to help those NDS figures?

ugo.santalucia

munkster wrote:

OK so I reckon DS spokes are all in range (122-137 on the chart) however NDS are only at around 60-70. Obviously I know that the NDS will always be (much?) lower tension but does 60-70 suggest I might take it up a little more to help those NDS figures?

No, it's where it should be

hypster

Something else you might want to bear in mind if your are using a Park TM-1 tension meter is that they usually read on the high side so you end up with less tension in the spokes than you think. My one is about 10% out so I usually add on another 10-12 kgf to allow for that. That will obviously help get the NDS up a bit as well.

cycleclinic

the above is so true. You need to take your park tool to a wheel with know tension and get a reference point. All you need to know is what 1200N is and what 900N is and that it for wheels building with rim brakes. (front disc brake wheels can be tensioned a bit more).

marpick

So, fronts are 130'ish with spot on radial and lateral running, rear is DS135'ish and NDS 70 with 1.7mm Dt Revolution, first build so am I off the scale here?

ugo.santalucia

Front is unnecessarily high... 100 is plenty

marpick

Thanks ugo, will adjust and retrue