For Sale: Used Specialised S-Works: Myth? Conspiracy?

RideOnTime
RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
edited July 2014 in Pro race
Available for immediate shipping...
Slight damage to frame... :shock:
One slightly reckless owner.

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They don't make 'em like they used to...
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  • specialized_nick
    specialized_nick Posts: 427
    Christ! :shock: :shock:
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,310
    I bet that incident has the Spesh boys backpedaling.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Maybe get a Neil Pryde instead
  • curium
    curium Posts: 815
    edited July 2014
    Lots of journalists on twitter at the tour seem to think this is normal result for a crash :shock: nobody believes this reflects negatively on Specialised in anyway.

    Makes me very nervous about carbon as I weigh 85 kg and have been known to chuck it about a bit.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,310
    This comes to mind:

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  • dnwhite88
    dnwhite88 Posts: 285
    curium wrote:
    Lots of journalists on twitter at the tour seem to think this is normal result for a crash :shock: nobody believes this reflects negatively on Specialised in anyway.

    Makes me very nervous about carbon as I weigh 85 kg and have been known to chuck it about a bit.


    Didn't they say this bike wasn't crashed but fell off the team car?
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Clearly not the bike Bertie crashed on - it is almost spotless.
    You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
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    If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.
  • curium
    curium Posts: 815
    edited July 2014
    https://twitter.com/friebos/status/488718224767606784

    Daniel Friebe confirms the broken bike was a spare that fell from the roof.

    Also, Jurgen Van den Broeck says it was AC's own fault for being reckless while decending.

    https://twitter.com/TourDeJose/status/4 ... 6479846400
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    Daz555 wrote:
    Clearly not the bike Bertie crashed on - it is almost spotless.
    I attemped to summarise things as best I could here :P
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    curium wrote:
    Lots of journalists on twitter at the tour seem to think this is normal result for a crash :shock: nobody believes this reflects negatively on Specialised in anyway.

    Makes me very nervous about carbon as I weigh 85 kg and have been known to chuck it about a bit.

    The official story is that it was on the roof of the Saxo support car and they clipped part of a Belkin car as they sped past. As long as you're a bit lighter than a support car, you'll probably be fine... Unless you ride into a car at that sort of speed, but in that situation steel isn't exactly happy either.
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  • curium
    curium Posts: 815
    adr82 wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Clearly not the bike Bertie crashed on - it is almost spotless.
    I attemped to summarise things as best I could here :P
    So where did Roche get to? He's nowhere in the picture, did he leave his bike and set off on foot...

    Also, the widest point of team cars is not the bikes on the roof. I can't see how two teams cars could tangle in a way that results in the damage pictured.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    curium wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Clearly not the bike Bertie crashed on - it is almost spotless.
    I attemped to summarise things as best I could here :P
    So where did Roche get to? He's nowhere in the picture, did he leave his bike and set off on foot...

    Also, the widest point of team cars is not the bikes on the roof. I can't see how two teams cars could tangle in a way that results in the damage pictured.
    Roche apparently swapped his bike at the same time, one of the TS mechanics carried off that Tarmac as Contador got moving again. I'm not claiming that what I wrote is correct/what actually happened, I was just trying to summarise the article someone linked to in that thread! It definitely doesn't look like the snapped frame was ever ridden today though, it's too clean for that.
  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,332
    curium wrote:
    adr82 wrote:
    Daz555 wrote:
    Clearly not the bike Bertie crashed on - it is almost spotless.
    I attemped to summarise things as best I could here :P
    So where did Roche get to? He's nowhere in the picture, did he leave his bike and set off on foot...

    Also, the widest point of team cars is not the bikes on the roof. I can't see how two teams cars could tangle in a way that results in the damage pictured.

    Check some of the images of team cars on Google images - the bikes can certainly extend outwards past the side of the car. If it were a problem with Specialized's bike, why would Bianchi sponsored Belkin have any interest in backing the story up?

    I'm puzzled by the Roche thing too, but did Roche swap for a generic 'team' spare knowing that his own was better set up for Contador? He was certainly one of the riders pacing Contador back up, so can't have gone too far down the road.
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  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    From the main spoiler thread:

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    You only need two tools: WD40 and Duck Tape.
    If it doesn't move and should, use the WD40.
    If it shouldn't move and does, use the tape.
  • Flat footed
    Flat footed Posts: 36
    Is it "normal" for spare bikes to already have a race number on?...thats Contadors number isn't it on the broken bike, and looking at other footage i can't find any other spare bikes with race numbers on already
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    Daz555 wrote:
    From the main spoiler thread:

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    What is this picture telling us?

    Is the driver of this car called Elkin?

    :)
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    RideOnTime wrote:
    Available for immediate shipping...
    Slight damage to frame... :shock:
    One slightly reckless owner.

    e7xtlj.jpg

    They don't make 'em like they used to...


    This is a bigger conspiracy than first thought then. What we're saying this is not Bertie's bike at all just some random Specialised S-works that looks very like Bertie's bike. and this bike had skidded 100 metres..... jeez...

    so someone might have given this a wash 'n' polish so it looked better on TV.
    But it's completely fooked there's no way round it...

    and who is that chef that's bending over in the background?
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    Daz555 wrote:
    From the main spoiler thread:

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    That woman looks very Dutch. Cream/white trouser, ankle high boots...
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  • FoldingJoe
    FoldingJoe Posts: 1,327
    RideOnTime wrote:
    RideOnTime wrote:
    Available for immediate shipping...
    Slight damage to frame... :shock:
    One slightly reckless owner.

    e7xtlj.jpg

    They don't make 'em like they used to...


    This is a bigger conspiracy than first thought then. What we're saying this is not Bertie's bike at all just some random Specialised S-works that looks very like Bertie's bike. and this bike had skidded 100 metres..... jeez...

    so someone might have given this a wash 'n' polish so it looked better on TV.
    But it's completely fooked there's no way round it...

    and who is that chef that's bending over in the background?

    I thought it was a crash test dummy, which may make more sense!. :)

    Spesh must be loving all this speculation going on especially after the recall on the SL4 due to some dodgy forks.
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  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    The thing is and fair do's to Specialised- what bike wouldn't completely snap in half in the circumstances?

    You know.. come on...

    Is it now that the claim is that the Belkin Team car ran over the bike that fell off the Saxo car and this isn't Bertie's bike at all.

    This is what the Dutch lady (is it a lady) is saying - "You van runoven a bike you herde gerde fools" and why is there such a massive thumb print on this picture!!!

    Someone please learn to use a camera :):D
  • ben@31
    ben@31 Posts: 2,327
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    Bit of super glue and bodge tape and it'll do a trip. You might have to close your eyes and pray a bit more on the down hill, though.
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  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    It's obviously called damage limitation from a brand that is scared and has some serious work to do. Good, don't like Specialized at all because of their legal shenanigans. With a bit of luck they will suffer like they make smaller competitors suffer. Tw@ts.
  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    http://cyclocosm.tumblr.com/post/918718 ... -contadors
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    Saw the pic yesterday. Sort of hard to miss really. Noticed the top tube break near the seat tube. Hadn't noticed the glaringly obvious break in the downtube. :oops:
  • yourpaceormine
    yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
    Saw the pic yesterday. Sort of hard to miss really. Noticed the top tube break near the seat tube. Hadn't noticed the glaringly obvious break in the downtube. :oops:
  • RideOnTime
    RideOnTime Posts: 4,712
    ^ Who's Miss Really? Is she the lady in the cream/white trousers? Why has Bertie got such a big head? It still doesn't add up 100m of skids... gloomy day... cycle as clean as a whistle.

    Hmm and the woman who we now believe to be a woman and of Dutch origin or connection... does she have closely kitted hair or is that a balaclava?
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,310
    She is probably disguised because someone may recognise her from swinging in the windows of Amsterdam.
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  • adr82
    adr82 Posts: 4,002
    RideOnTime wrote:
    ^ Who's Miss Really? Is she the lady in the cream/white trousers? Why has Bertie got such a big head? It still doesn't add up 100m of skids... gloomy day... cycle as clean as a whistle.

    Hmm and the woman who we now believe to be a woman and of Dutch origin or connection... does she have closely kitted hair or is that a balaclava?
    RideOnTime: asking the important questions!

    :P
  • andrewjoseph
    andrewjoseph Posts: 2,165
    Nico says he was first to get to Bertie and his bike was broken, so gave him his.
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  • Colinthecop
    Colinthecop Posts: 996
    I'm gonna nip over to the David Icke forum and get the true version from there....

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