Be careful of Ebay.
Dandelionclock30
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Just a quick note to beginneers or anyone whos not sure of the cost of bikes new. Today I found someone selling a ladies Carerra Tour De France bike which is £269.00 at Halfords for £699.00, the exact same bike.
If anyones not sure how much they should be paying then please look round and ask either on here or someone whos trustworthy.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... AQ:GB:1123.
Hes taken it off now.
If anyones not sure how much they should be paying then please look round and ask either on here or someone whos trustworthy.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... AQ:GB:1123.
Hes taken it off now.
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Not eBay's fault though. And I can't fault the enterprise of anyone who is able to catch someone too stupid to realise they're paying more than the price of a new one. eBay is full of items that sell for more than you can actually buy a new one from a registered supplier and if bidders are stupid enough to pay too much, more fool them.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0
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I just wouldnt like anyone who wanted a bike especially a newcomer to be ripped off by this rogue. Its as bad as hitting someone over the head with a brick and robbing their purse.0
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Dandelionclock30 wrote:I just wouldnt like anyone who wanted a bike especially a newcomer to be ripped off by this rogue. Its as bad as hitting someone over the head with a brick and robbing their purse.
It's nothing like that. :roll:
If you can get onto ebay, then you can get on the internet. If you are on the internet, it only takes a few seconds to realise that the bike being sold is worth a fraction of what the person is trying to sell this for. Anyone that spends that amount of money on this bike, deserves to get right royaly screwed.0 -
Dandelionclock30 wrote:I just wouldnt like anyone who wanted a bike especially a newcomer to be ripped off by this rogue. Its as bad as hitting someone over the head with a brick and robbing their purse.
Yeah, because one is entirely legal - and the other constitutes robbery with violence. The ebay guy is actually perfectly entitled to sell a bike (any bike) for whatever price he chooses.0 -
Imposter wrote:Dandelionclock30 wrote:Yeah, because one is entirely legal - and the other constitutes robbery with violence. The ebay guy is actually perfectly entitled to sell a bike (any bike) for whatever price he chooses.
Theft + violence = robbery.0 -
johnny25 wrote:Imposter wrote:Dandelionclock30 wrote:Yeah, because one is entirely legal - and the other constitutes robbery with violence. The ebay guy is actually perfectly entitled to sell a bike (any bike) for whatever price he chooses.
Theft + violence = robbery.
Not sure what point you were making there, but thanks for that.0 -
Before entertaining buying anything on ebay these days I always google for new prices as most of the time it can be had new for few ££ more or less if some plonkers go nuts with the bidding.
Anyone paying double for a bike has more underlying issues!0 -
Yip, There's a lot of stupid people on Ebay....
Bit like the internet I guess,
Which I suppose is like real life. :shock:0 -
I think ebay is full of people who wouldn't function in normal society0
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Theres lots of stupid people everywhere. I like ebay, but usually buy from traders not bidding on second hand stuff. It does amaze me the price some things sell for, why you would pay more than 80% of the new price + postage on an item that you could by new with free delivery and a warranty always puzzles me.
You have to remember though that to some sad people Ebay is their only hobbyHills do make I sweat a lot0 -
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Imposter wrote:johnny25 wrote:Imposter wrote:Dandelionclock30 wrote:Yeah, because one is entirely legal - and the other constitutes robbery with violence. The ebay guy is actually perfectly entitled to sell a bike (any bike) for whatever price he chooses.
Theft + violence = robbery.
Not sure what point you were making there, but thanks for that.
I think the point he was making is that by its definition "robbery" always has to include violence or a threat of violence. If not, it's just plain theft.
Similarly, you cannot rob a house because a house cannot be put in fear of violence, so it will always be burglary. This is a very common mistake and lots of press reports will describe a house as being "robbed" rather than "burgled. "
Lesson over.
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Unless you go North of the border - theres no such thing as burglary up here.
It's theft with an aggravation - Theft by housebreaking. If your house is not secure and someone sneaks in, that's not a housebreaking. It's just theft - a crime at common law. There is no theft act up here.
And carrying on with boring facts, unless things have changed, you cannot rob someone of their car... As taking a car is not theft (unless you keep it for 28 days) it's a TDA - taking and driving away.
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I made a bid on an old Specialized Riva saddle yesterday to finish off an old training bike I'm tinkering with. There was a £5.00 postage fee from the seller. Needless to say I didn't win as the saddle sold for £20.
A brand new Riva saddle can be bought for £25 and free postage. Now I'll concede that maybe the winner has discovered old model Riva saddles are the only one for him and is prepared to pay accordingly. However I'm always looking at kit on ebay and it never fails to baffle me how much people will pay over the odds for stuff. It's like they get a fever or some kind of win at all costs mindset. Ebay is rarely a bargain these days for cycling equipment I find and there are clearly people prepared to take advantage of this.
That said, the stupidity of some buyers makes me less than sympathetic. Some weeks ago I was selling a decent road bike via ebay (never again) and one guy asked if I would swap it for a BMX and an air rifle! I pointed out I was not twelve. Another guy asked if I would ship the bike to him. I pointed out that the description and postage details both said categorically that it was collect only. So he then bid and won. :shock: When I messaged him that he had won and needed to collect and pay he went into melt down. He then suggested I should drive the bike to him in Humberside from Devon for a "donation" towards my petrol money and that my refusal was "unfair."
I sold an old Specialized Sirrus last year via ebay and the winning bid was so high my conscience wouldn't let me take the full amount. The winner was buying the bike for her teenage son who she said had seen some "racing" but she was clearly clueless. What he made of being presented with a commuting bike complete with mudguards and Marathon tyres I wouldn't like to guess. Not quite the Dogma he had hoped for I suppose.0 -
Caveat emptor applies to all transactions with private sellers.
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Avenger, you need to steer clear of Ebay, you're attracting some real nutters. 0
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Every time I see 'collection only' I ask if they can get their LBS to box it up and I'll arrange courier. Looks like it's worked out and sorting a new bike this week shipped from Newcastle to London for a small charge.
Don't ask, don't get.0 -
How much would an LBS charge to box a bike? Fair play if that's what you do.0
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Edinburgh co-op in newcastle quoting 15 quid. Not cheap, but worth it for the bike I'm after which should be a snip due to the reasons you state.
Non postage is a sure way to reduce your selling price as not everyone (me!) has a car, nor has the time to travel, especially if the item is the other side of the country.0 -
I suppose it's a question of how valuable your time is vs the value of the bike. I'm still glad I didn't box my sons Specialized P1 and send it to Chile like the nice man on Ebay asked though.(true story)0
