This is what is giving us bad names

Sharkyssurfers
Sharkyssurfers Posts: 767
edited July 2014 in Commuting chat
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-28210364

I hope they find them and fine them/prosecute them. :evil:
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  • cookeeemonster
    cookeeemonster Posts: 1,991
    Cyclists or chavs on bikes? I very rarely see yer stereotypical 'lycra lout' on the pavement...but I see plenty of chavvy types doing it...the police have threatened to release pictures if they don't come forward, I'd have just released the pictures myself.
  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    Er, its not giving me a bad name...
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    notsoblue wrote:
    Er, its not giving me a bad name...
    You give love, a bad name....
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    CookeeeMonster wrote:
    Cyclists or chavs on bikes? I very rarely see yer stereotypical 'lycra lout' on the pavement...but I see plenty of chavvy types doing it...the police have threatened to release pictures if they don't come forward, I'd have just released the pictures myself.
    I agree with this.

    In addition, on my commute, although you do get some lycra peeps jumping lights, it's mainly nodders who seem to be oblivious to lights/pedestrian crossings (anecdotal only of course).
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  • markhewitt1978
    markhewitt1978 Posts: 7,614
    Not cyclists, two blokes on bikes, big difference.
  • keyser__soze
    keyser__soze Posts: 2,067
    Meanwhile, the BBC website has no mention whatsoever of the Sussex cyclist being killed after being hit by a car with the driver arrested for dangerous driving: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/ ... -1-6164601 - a case of man bites dog here?
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  • vorsprung
    vorsprung Posts: 1,953
    It doesn't give "us" (people who ride bikes) a bad name

    Riding a bike does not make you a good or bad person

    You are good or bad according to your actions

    This is simply journalists talking up a tale that there are monsters on the loose
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    No, this isn't giving us a bad name. I don't think that the general public, when they hear the word 'cyclist' think of pedestrian hit and run incidents. They think of red light jumping and 'don't pay road tax'.
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  • Sharkyssurfers
    Sharkyssurfers Posts: 767
    Rolf F wrote:
    No, this isn't giving us a bad name. I don't think that the general public, when they hear the word 'cyclist' think of pedestrian hit and run incidents. They think of red light jumping and 'don't pay road tax'.

    I bet if you asked the mother what see thinks of cyclists it would not be great :roll:
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,490
    The victim appears to have a good perspective of the events.

    "Aaliyah added: 'There were two bad men on bikes who knocked me over and then rode over me."

    They were bad men who happened to be on bikes.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Sharkyssurfers wrote:
    Rolf F wrote:
    No, this isn't giving us a bad name. I don't think that the general public, when they hear the word 'cyclist' think of pedestrian hit and run incidents. They think of red light jumping and 'don't pay road tax'.

    I bet if you asked the mother what see thinks of cyclists it would not be great :roll:

    And if the child had been knocked over by a car would you extrapolate that to 'car drivers being given a bad name'?

    Do you think that the mother has all sorts of friends who have also been knocked over by cyclists? If it was the third or fourth incident that year that she had had some personal involvement with then she might reasonably start to develop a low opinion of cyclists as a whole but a one off? Seriously?

    Crikey, I'm sure that every so often a cyclist murders someone. Are we to expect that, if that happens, the public will associate cyclists with being murderers? Some sense of perspective is in order - this is a rare occurence. Don't worry about it. It hasn't given us a bad name :wink:
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  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    I am reminded of that fella who faked his own death in a canoeing accident. The media kept referring to him as "The Dead Canoeist" which would leave me inwardly screaming that he is not a canoeist and not dead.
  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Outgroup mentality rears its ugly head again.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ful ... ogy-crowds is an article on why this happens. Basically cyclists are seen as an outgroup by other road users (and pedestrians), Wiki has a quick definition which helps as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroups_and_outgroups (Group Homogeneity)
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  • Stag on
    Stag on Posts: 99
    spot on mr Burns, the use of the word 'they' is a good indicator of this sort of thing too.
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    http://users.utu.fi/freder/dervinhandbookcorrect.pdf

    For my sociology degree this was called 'othering' ie defining ourselves in terms of what we are not. And the generation of social stereotypes

    I would have thought that these two morons would be easy to identify from strava records...

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