GPS Bike Computer

Schellpel
Schellpel Posts: 119
edited July 2014 in MTB buying advice
It's My birthday :D and I have some money burning a hole in my pocket so I have dediced to get a dedicated GPS unit for the bike.

At the moment I am using my Garmin Etrex 10 with a bike mount and strava on my phone. The phone GPS is flakey and the etrex will fly off its mount in a crash :oops:

At the moment I am looking at the following

Garmin Edge 200

Bryton Rider 21

Cateye Stealth 50

I would like to have my altitude recorded and maybe calories. Heart rate might be something I would get in the future.

Anyone got any thoughts on the above units ?

Comments

  • bagz3
    bagz3 Posts: 253
    Dont about the others but the Garmin 200 wont record your heart rate, you'd need the 500 for that function, and therefore calorie readings wouldnt be as accurate.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    The 500 is a little to pricey, the Bryton's seem to offer a lot of value for money , the rider 21 has everything I need and can be had for ~ £80. Was wondering how they hold up to offload riding ?
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    Does anyone know if the Bryton can upload its info onto Strava ? or export the info in a gpx or tcx file ?
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    You can export a gpx and upload to strava for bryton
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    Ignore calorie consumption, it's complete bollocks, Polar have the algorithm with the most accurate guess, but that's all it is. Don't buy a computer because it offers that.

    The Bryton's UI is (or was at least) a bit clunky, and they seemed a bit more buggy than Garmins, but work well and are good value.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    It seems by choice is the Garmin edge 200 or the Bryton 21 or possibly 20

    There is no mention on the Garmin sight as to whether the edge 200 records altitude data, that is something I would like for height gained lost ect.

    The Bryton is a lot more feature rich but apart from the addition of a barometric altimeter I don't really think I would use most of it.

    There is only about £10 in it
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    The Edge 200 doesn't have a barometric altimeter, it uses GPS data, which will give you a proxy, but not be all that accurate. That said, Strava will correct it when you upload anyway.

    Edit: I'd sooner track down a second hand 500 (or even a 705) than have a 200 FWIW.
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    I'm looking at getting a gps computer too.. if I was you look at some of the nearly new ones on ebay

    I saw a Bryton rider 40 go for £45 the other day which I just missed out on by logging in too late
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    njee20 wrote:
    The Edge 200 doesn't have a barometric altimeter, it uses GPS data, which will give you a proxy, but not be all that accurate. That said, Strava will correct it when you upload anyway.

    Edit: I'd sooner track down a second hand 500 (or even a 705) than have a 200 FWIW.

    Thank you that's the thing I was trying to find out. My Handheld Etrex 10 does that and its accurate enough for my purposes. So leaning heavily towards the Garmin now. Interesting idea about Ebay but I am a bit disillusioned with auctions on there as some poeple bid silly amounts and days before the end of the auction. I bought a X-Fusion Hilo for £140 from wiggle and I saw second hand ones go for that on ebay.

    That aside what do we all think

    Garmin 200 or Bryton 21 ?
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    I never said eBay.

    Here's one on STW for £110 with various bits. They're out there.

    I'd have the Bryton, the Edge 200 is over priced IMO.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    I was given an Amazon voucher for my BD so the edge would cost me ~£40 so from that point of view it's better value for me. I like the Bryton but I don't think I would ever use all the extra features.
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    So why are you asking?
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    I agree with the edge 200 being overpriced
    Exactly the same as the bryton rider 20/21 but about £40 more
    Although the edge 200 has mapping I wouldn't call it that.. It's effectively an arrow moving through a blank screen, so not very useful
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    yeah it really doesn't have mapping. Didn't think it even did breadcrumb trails.
  • kajjal
    kajjal Posts: 3,380
    I was looking at an Edge 200 but ended up with the 500 for two reasons. Firstly the display on the 500 has various options and screen setups, where the 200 is fixed. Secondly the 500 can be set to update your position every second, the 200 updates as it sees fit which can be several seconds or more at times making it a lot less accurate on tight twisting trails. Check the web for example comparisons.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    Kajjal wrote:
    I was looking at an Edge 200 but ended up with the 500 for two reasons. Firstly the display on the 500 has various options and screen setups, where the 200 is fixed. Secondly the 500 can be set to update your position every second, the 200 updates as it sees fit which can be several seconds or more at times making it a lot less accurate on tight twisting trails. Check the web for example comparisons.

    The 500 is more than I can afford ATM, but the Bryton Rider 21 is ~£85 and I can use my voucher. Does anyone know if the Bryton has a good position refresh rate ?
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    Nope, fairly sure the Bryton has 'smart' sampling.
  • holiver
    holiver Posts: 729
    I have the 200 and am pretty happy with it for recording rides, and showing basic info like speed and distance.

    The mapping on it is basic, but extremely easy to follow and use. It got me from London to Bristol via a pretty sinuous route without getting lost once over 2 days. I would be happy to recommend if you can get it at a decent price.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    I have downloaded the manual for both and having a look through now. The Bryton lets you switch between energy saving mode and best mode, or something like that.
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    Just to muddle things a little more, I have found the Bryton 20 T with heart rate monitor and cadence meter for £60, you loose the barometric altimeter and you can only look at elevation data on strava / brytons site,

    They liked it on here http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... -12-46229/
  • ej2320
    ej2320 Posts: 1,543
    Well the barometric altimeter isn't too important.. Just means the altitude reading will be slightly out and personally I couldn't really care about my altitude while on a ride
  • Schellpel
    Schellpel Posts: 119
    In the end I went for the Rider 20T which came with Heart rate monitor and cadence meter for £57 :-). This has all the basic functions. I have been using it a couple of weeks and overall quite pleased with it. Its more accurate than my mobile was, not as good as the Etrex 10 but that is not a fair comparison. Battery life is excellent, I did a 4 hour ride this week and it was still showing full capacity at the end. The interface does take some getting used to but its ok once you know what you are doing.

    The heart rate info is v interesting/disturbing depending on your point of view.You can turn off the GPS and use it as heart rate monitor down the gym. The cadence meter is going on ebay as I have no need of it.

    If your budget is small then I would recommend it
  • mrkev83
    mrkev83 Posts: 184
    Schellpel wrote:
    In the end I went for the Rider 20T which came with Heart rate monitor and cadence meter for £57 :-). This has all the basic functions. I have been using it a couple of weeks and overall quite pleased with it. Its more accurate than my mobile was, not as good as the Etrex 10 but that is not a fair comparison. Battery life is excellent, I did a 4 hour ride this week and it was still showing full capacity at the end. The interface does take some getting used to but its ok once you know what you are doing.

    The heart rate info is v interesting/disturbing depending on your point of view.You can turn off the GPS and use it as heart rate monitor down the gym. The cadence meter is going on ebay as I have no need of it.

    If your budget is small then I would recommend it

    Where did you get it that cheap? I was considering an edge 200 till reading this
    http://www.strava.com/athletes/mrkev83

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