Job advice, what would you do?

welshkev

I've just been for a second interview for a new job. It went well and I think I'm going to be offered it.
Pros are : more money, more interesting work, better career progression.

Cons are: company van and not car, working more hours and less holiday (2 days less)

Am I being stupid to give up my time and car? I like the more money and career progression side of things though

rockmonkeysc

Van is good for carrying bikes!
Does holiday increase in a few years?

thekickingmule

Take the new job.

Think about it, with better money, you could buy a small car for what you need it for (for everything else, there's the van!) 2 days less in a year isn't that problematic, just phone in sick twice a year!

Having heard some of the things you've said about work, you'd be stupid to not take it.

Good luck!

mpatts

Just use the van for work, thus not paying tax, and buy your own car. Done!

Colinthecop

I'd rather have a van than a car...

Or even better, try and blag a double cab pick-up truck, that ticks all the boxes. 8)

Stevo_666

Take the job.

2 day hold isn't a deal breaker and a van still gets you places. Longer term you'll be better off and your career may well have gone in the right direction.

markhewitt1978

The two days holiday are a good price to pay for more money, more interesting work, better career progression.

Plus if you're offered the job you can always ask if you can have those two days, they can only say no!

welshkev

Yeah holiday increases over time.

Van is company use only do I'd have to get another vehicle - this isn't essential as my gf has a car i'm insured on.

thekickingmule

welshkev wrote:

Yeah holiday increases over time.

Van is company use only do I'd have to get another vehicle - this isn't essential as my gf has a car i'm insured on.

In that case, you're answering your own question!

Go for it!

veronese68

Go or it. Also you're paying loads of tax on a company car, unless Stevo has fiddled the books for you.

welshkev

Just out of interest, what's the etiquette of accepting a new job and then my old employer offering me better terms that tempt me?

bg13

Take the job and when you need those extra two days lob in a sickie! Simples!

mattham

welshkev wrote:

Just out of interest, what's the etiquette of accepting a new job and then my old employer offering me better terms that tempt me?

Counter offers rarely end well if you accept it. Most of the time the offer doesn't really address the issues you have and the real reasons you are looking to move on which believe it or not is rarely about money, in your case it sounds like the real reason is lack of career opportunities. Does the offer change this?

If you look up the stats, its something like 50% of people who accept a counter offer are not at the same place within 2 years. Mostly it is because of the above in that it doesn't really address the issue and after a period of being happy with some extra money, the old problems resurface, and sometimes its because the employer fixes a short term issue by throwing some money at it, i.e. stopping you leaving, whilst making plans for replacing you and then maneuvers you out.

Also, it changes the relationship and the 'psychological contract' between you and your employer, things could become uneasy and a bit fractured as your employer could look at you and think that you don't really want to be there, are you really going the extra mile to add value etc. And it's something you can only do once so make sure this is the right job offer to use as a lever if that's what you want to do.

The fundamental question to ask yourself is, does the reason I am looking to move disappear through accepting a counter offer?

A lot to think about I would say!

Matt

ste_t

More money = more hookers & blow
Van = easier to dispose of the bodies

Win Win

As this is the CC, I'll resist offering genuine advice. You'll be at retirement age soon anyway so make the most of it

Angus Young

Seriously? You have to ask this question? Take the damn job!