Failed to turn on GPS

Stupid-death
Stupid-death Posts: 63
edited May 2014 in Road general
I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route. I've found this http://fitfilerepairtool.info/ and tested the trial and it will merge a two tcx files one with all my stats and the other with the route but to do so I need to pay £32 for a license which is just far too much for one ride. Does anybody use this software? and willing to help me out and merge the files for me? :D

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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Why not just edit them manually? Effectively they are glorified text files. You can open them in standard MS software like Notepad or Textpad.
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  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    It's one ride, why worry?
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  • Stupid-death
    Stupid-death Posts: 63
    By hand will take forever.

    Not worried, annoyed as I put a massive effort up a hill and wanted to see how I compared to my previouse best
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Stupid-death wrote:
    By hand will take forever.

    Not worried, annoyed as I put a massive effort up a hill and wanted to see how I compared to my previouse best

    Point taken. I was a bit confused by the problem tbh as my GPS units are either on or off. I still am really - don't quite get what you have in the two TCX files. But you might be able to identify the start and end of the climb by looking for the appropriate elevations at the appropriate times and looking at the time difference to get your time.
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  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    Go ride the hill again.

    Focus your anger and frustration about not having recorded the ride and use it on the hill.

    Don't forget to press record this time.

    Then go ride the hill again.
    Stuff about riding a bike a long way
  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    Stupid-death wrote:
    By hand will take forever.

    Not worried, annoyed as I put a massive effort up a hill and wanted to see how I compared to my previouse best

    The dangers of Strava (or other) always needing to beat your best. Annoying isn't it ;-)
    http://www.stuartmole.co.uk/
  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    Stupid-death wrote:
    I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route.

    How do you have speed, distance and HR if the GPS was off?
  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    lc1981 wrote:
    Stupid-death wrote:
    I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route.

    How do you have speed, distance and HR if the GPS was off?

    Ant+ sensors....
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  • Stupid-death
    Stupid-death Posts: 63
    lc1981 wrote:
    Stupid-death wrote:
    I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route.

    How do you have speed, distance and HR if the GPS was off?


    I have HRM and Speed and Cadence sensors
  • Stupid-death
    Stupid-death Posts: 63
    marcusjb wrote:
    Go ride the hill again.

    Focus your anger and frustration about not having recorded the ride and use it on the hill.

    Don't forget to press record this time.

    Then go ride the hill again.

    I did press record, it just flagged something up about no GPS signal which i cleared without reading properly thinking it would just pickup a signal once i'd got going like my old GPS, this one appears to have just given up bothering and assumed i was on a turbo. Very frustrated as the conditions were perfect for it.
  • Stupid-death
    Stupid-death Posts: 63
    Rolf F wrote:
    Stupid-death wrote:
    By hand will take forever.

    Not worried, annoyed as I put a massive effort up a hill and wanted to see how I compared to my previouse best

    Point taken. I was a bit confused by the problem tbh as my GPS units are either on or off. I still am really - don't quite get what you have in the two TCX files. But you might be able to identify the start and end of the climb by looking for the appropriate elevations at the appropriate times and looking at the time difference to get your time.

    In the TCX from my device I have Spd, distance, altitude, heart rate, cadence, temperature. In the other TCX i have the route generated by bikeroutetoaster, just need to combine the two, which is possible but by hand would take a long time and if it fails it's an awful lot of time to waste. The utility in OP seems to work but the unlicensed trial will only let you do the first part of the ride.
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    Stupid-death wrote:
    marcusjb wrote:
    Go ride the hill again.

    Focus your anger and frustration about not having recorded the ride and use it on the hill.

    Don't forget to press record this time.

    Then go ride the hill again.

    I did press record, it just flagged something up about no GPS signal which i cleared without reading properly thinking it would just pickup a signal once i'd got going like my old GPS, this one appears to have just given up bothering and assumed i was on a turbo. Very frustrated as the conditions were perfect for it.

    So go ride the hill again.

    And again.

    And again.

    Repeat and you'll soon be wondering how you were so slow that time your GPS screwed up.
    Stuff about riding a bike a long way
  • BrandonA
    BrandonA Posts: 553
    Stupid-death wrote:
    lc1981 wrote:
    Stupid-death wrote:
    I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route.

    How do you have speed, distance and HR if the GPS was off?


    I have HRM and Speed and Cadence sensors

    Are you hooking these to a phone and not a GPS device?

    If you are maybe you need to get a proper recording device that sits on your handlebars as you'll always know whether is it running or not.

    As for merging files. I assume you have taken the route from another site such as bikeroutetoaster or ridewithgps. I can't imagine merging the two will give very accurate results.
  • ben-----
    ben----- Posts: 573
    You can plot your route on Google maps, then, I forget exactly how (you have to log in to Google and to be able save the route then be able to download its data), get the data of the route as, something like a kml (?) file. There's online tools to easily convert that file type to gpx. But that gpx data will be missing time data so Strava doesn't take it. With a very basic and bodged way, I programmatically insert the time data for each data point (based on start and end time). I get the entire ride's time roughly right, so the average mph is about right, but the time in detail is obviously rubbish (eg it might say my top speed was 50mph).
  • lc1981
    lc1981 Posts: 820
    Stupid-death wrote:
    lc1981 wrote:
    Stupid-death wrote:
    I stupidly didn't turn on GPS on my ride today, so I have speed, distance, HR etc, but failed to get my route.

    How do you have speed, distance and HR if the GPS was off?


    I have HRM and Speed and Cadence sensors

    Oh, I presumed that you meant the device was off.
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Wow. What a bizarre thread. I honestly didn't think people were capable of being that anal over a bicycle GPS. Guess I was wrong. :roll:
  • chris_bass
    chris_bass Posts: 4,913
    i would imagine that the distance from your speed/cadence sensor will differ from the route so it wont line up properly.

    anyway, if you feel like you put in a good effort do you need some numbers to confirm or deny this? if you knew the hill was coming did you not glance down at the start and again at the end? you must have a reasonable idea of how good it was?
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,481
    dennisn wrote:
    Wow. What a bizarre thread. I honestly didn't think people were capable of being that anal over a bicycle GPS. Guess I was wrong. :roll:
    There's a first time for everything, Dennis.

    I do sometimes wonder what's more important to some folk: the ride, or the figures.
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  • dilatory
    dilatory Posts: 565
    briantrumpet wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    Wow. What a bizarre thread. I honestly didn't think people were capable of being that anal over a bicycle GPS. Guess I was wrong. :roll:
    There's a first time for everything, Dennis.

    I do sometimes wonder what's more important to some folk: the ride, or the figures.

    God forbid people ride their bikes for different reasons.
  • Downward
    Downward Posts: 179
    Seriously ? Isn't getting home and transferring your ride to Strava the best thing about Cycling ?
  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    dilatory wrote:
    briantrumpet wrote:
    dennisn wrote:
    Wow. What a bizarre thread. I honestly didn't think people were capable of being that anal over a bicycle GPS. Guess I was wrong. :roll:
    There's a first time for everything, Dennis.

    I do sometimes wonder what's more important to some folk: the ride, or the figures.

    God forbid people ride their bikes for different reasons.

    True stories-
    I was on a road trip with a friend a few years ago. He was calling home and talking to his wife. After a few minutes I heard him ask "Did you ride today?". To which she replied something I didn't hear. He then proceeded to ask, while writing in a small notebook, "Did you say 21.1 or 21.2 miles?". Even today, when I think about it, my mind draws a complete blank.

    Another friend once told me, while I was helping him install a bike computer, to pump up the tires to 116 PSI as that was what he used when he did a rollout measurement of his wheel circumference. Once again, in thinking about that, my mind just sort of goes into a whaaaaaat? kind of mode. 116?????? :?

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