Cyclists killed in Cornwall
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Heard about this on Radio Scotland, I wonder what the outcome will be?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ride.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -ride.html
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Looks as though he has been charged.
http://road.cc/content/news/118865-lorr ... -last-july0 -
The A30 yet again
Red bikes are the fastest.0 -
Where's Mikey?
Anybody seen him?0 -
this incident was last year ...0
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Man has been charged - not gone to court yet. It relates to the case on the A30 last July when 2 guys riding LEJOG were killed. It appears the same guy has also been charged with another dangerous driving case in September 2013, though this one seems to have been causing a crash only rather than two deaths.0
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yes, the article seemed to be a new one but is actually referring to an incident that happened last summer. so he is being charged with death by dangerous driving... good0
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I'd been wondering about this too myself - I'm very glad that something is happening at last.Mikey23 wrote:yes, the article seemed to be a new one but is actually referring to an incident that happened last summer. so he is being charged with death by dangerous driving... good
Similarly, you wouldn't catch me on the A30 either, a motorway in all but name, but with no hard shoulder.0 -
I'm doing a Jogle in June, one of our overnights is in Exeter then on to Bodmin. I've routed avoiding the A30, do you have a route you'd recommend?briantrumpet wrote:
I'd been wondering about this too myself - I'm very glad that something is happening at last.Mikey23 wrote:yes, the article seemed to be a new one but is actually referring to an incident that happened last summer. so he is being charged with death by dangerous driving... good
Similarly, you wouldn't catch me on the A30 either, a motorway in all but name, but with no hard shoulder.0 -
The old A30 is lovely. Shadows the new one for quite a bit of the way. There's a good chunk detailed on my St Ives to Exeter route http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2807447 - not sure what you do then to get to Bodmin - perhaps Mikey can help with that, but maybe go as far as Camelford on my route, then fork left.Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:I'm doing a Jogle in June, one of our overnights is in Exeter then on to Bodmin. I've routed avoiding the A30, do you have a route you'd recommend?0 -
Wouldn't get me riding on the A30 either0
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Thanks Brian, I'll check it out.briantrumpet wrote:
The old A30 is lovely. Shadows the new one for quite a bit of the way. There's a good chunk detailed on my St Ives to Exeter route http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2807447 - not sure what you do then to get to Bodmin - perhaps Mikey can help with that, but maybe go as far as Camelford on my route, then fork left.Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:I'm doing a Jogle in June, one of our overnights is in Exeter then on to Bodmin. I've routed avoiding the A30, do you have a route you'd recommend?0 -
Not really sure as I don't ride in that area but I would say that the Atlantic highway route is a good one and the safest of the major routes. I think there is a long straight quietish road into Bodmin from it0
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The A39 is far better but even that isn't great although in peak tourist season the traffic won't be going fast!0
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briantrumpet wrote:
The old A30 is lovely. Shadows the new one for quite a bit of the way. There's a good chunk detailed on my St Ives to Exeter route http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2807447 - not sure what you do then to get to Bodmin - perhaps Mikey can help with that, but maybe go as far as Camelford on my route, then fork left.Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:I'm doing a Jogle in June, one of our overnights is in Exeter then on to Bodmin. I've routed avoiding the A30, do you have a route you'd recommend?
Yep, that B3266 from Camelford looks a good bet. That looks like a really good ride - it's always a surprise how far you still have to go when you hit Exeter on the way to western Cornwall.0 -
It's not too hilly, either (for round here) - some longish drags (e.g. 600ft up from Exeter to Whiddon Down), but some nice long rolling stretches as well. It's a pretty quiet but direct road most of the way, which makes it doubly surprising to me why people would want to go via a busy tedious dual carriageway for such a long stretch when doing LEJOG or JOGLE - if memory serves correctly the St Ives to Exeter 130 miles took me eight hours in total, so I can't think that the A30 shaves much time off that, unless you manage to draft some of the 40-tonne lorries that will go past at close quarters.Pross wrote:Yep, that B3266 from Camelford looks a good bet. That looks like a really good ride - it's always a surprise how far you still have to go when you hit Exeter on the way to western Cornwall.0 -
Lack of planning I think. There was a similar accident I passed on the A55 in Anglesey a couple of years ago, another charity ride straight off the ferry from Ireland and onto a very similar road to the A30 carrying all the trucks (it was a car that hit the group of cyclists). They could have used the A5 which is really quite and runs more or less parallel.0
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Cornwall, anyone heard from Mikey!?I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
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Pross wrote:Lack of planning I think. There was a similar accident I passed on the A55 in Anglesey a couple of years ago, another charity ride straight off the ferry from Ireland and onto a very similar road to the A30 carrying all the trucks (it was a car that hit the group of cyclists). They could have used the A5 which is really quite and runs more or less parallel.
The A5 is far from quiet and almost as terrifying as the A55 on a bicycle! The A5 has a lot more holes too. Sinking less than the A55 though. Oh goodness our roads...0 -
SloppySchleckonds wrote:Cornwall, anyone heard from Mikey!?
One Mikey replied earlier to this thread so that ones ok
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I would go Exeter, tavistock, callington, liskeard, st Austell, truro Falmouth and onto penzance lands end, in fact I ve cycled all of this on various days
anyone who cycles on the A30 is crazy, esp the cornwall sections which are hi speed and quite twisty.0 -
I've been shot down elsewhere for suggesting bikes shouldn't be allowed on the dualled A30, but to reinforce how crazy anyone would be to cycle on it, here's a very short video clip I did today: http://youtu.be/aiN7xQeyjRAmamba80 wrote:anyone who cycles on the A30 is crazy, esp the cornwall sections which are hi speed and quite twisty.0 -
The route appears to go on the A30 just SW of Oakhampton, is it in fact the old a30 and the map isn't showing it correctly?Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:
Thanks Brian, I'll check it out.briantrumpet wrote:
The old A30 is lovely. Shadows the new one for quite a bit of the way. There's a good chunk detailed on my St Ives to Exeter route http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2807447 - not sure what you do then to get to Bodmin - perhaps Mikey can help with that, but maybe go as far as Camelford on my route, then fork left.Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:I'm doing a Jogle in June, one of our overnights is in Exeter then on to Bodmin. I've routed avoiding the A30, do you have a route you'd recommend?0 -
Sorry - lack of checking on my part - it should carry on through Lifton & Lewdown. Corrected version here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1474210Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:The route appears to go on the A30 just SW of Oakhampton, is it in fact the old a30 and the map isn't showing it correctly?0 -
OK, thanks for sorting it 8)briantrumpet wrote:
Sorry - lack of checking on my part - it should carry on through Lifton & Lewdown. Corrected version here: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1474210Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:The route appears to go on the A30 just SW of Oakhampton, is it in fact the old a30 and the map isn't showing it correctly?0 -
unless you some how navigate on to unclassified roads, that route will take you back onto the A30 DC at redruth/Camborne, all of the A30 is shitte, I still say that you are better going south and go through truro/Falmouth/helston, there are some great places to visit around liskeard and st Austell.
if you insist, the link road -A385 I think, from Launceston to A39 is v fast and busy - as is A39, far better to go through five lanes/alternun and join at davidstow, buy a paper map, you see what I mean
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A395 from launceston to the A39 is actually not too bad, it's one of my favourite routes and I do it most weeks as do many of the local riders. Some fast moving traffic but pretty open and feels safe. There is a wind farm along the way and it is inclined to be windy!
I agree tavi, callington, liskeard etc but there are some pretty challenging climbs and descents, notably to gunnislake bridge and from gunnislake up to st Ann's chapel, and to new bridge and up to st ive. Some of the hairpins and overhanging trees make these quite dodgy even though there is less traffic0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-28983049
Not sure if you guys have seen this so thought i would post it anyway... Some kind of closure i suppose0 -
Whats the point of serving a term 'concurrently'? Seems like just saying "We'll let you off that one".
How are you even allowed to keep your licence after literally mowing two people down whilst driving illegally (assume falsifying a tachograph is illegal?)?
Whats the point in having laws to prevent people falling asleep at the wheel and killing people if when they kill people after falling asleep while breaking them.................you then let them carry on driving.
If you kill someone whist falsifying a tachograph it should be viewed as (seriously as) murder IMO.
'Devoted dad', yeah, I'll bet he is. Not that thats got much to do with anything.
Society should care far more about how he values his fellow citizens.
You may as well say "ah, but he looks after his hamster really well" for all the relevance that would have to why he is in court :roll:0
