Scott Foil 10 2013

norvernrob

Morning all

I've been looking at new bikes, and have seen the Scott Foil 2013 on offer at half price. I appreciate it's going to be a pretty stiff, racy ride but I'm not looking for a sportive bike! It has full Sram red apart from a dura ace chain and cassette, I have Sram force/rival now and like the double tap system so no issues there.

I would probably switch the syncros aero wheels out for my current lighter Shimanos, these have an sram 11-28 cassette on already, the syncros have 11-25 so would it just be a direct fit to swap the wheels? I need the 28 for the hills around here. I appreciate the bike isn't a dedicated climbing machine, but total weight would only be around 6.6kg with my wheels so it's nearly 2kg lighter than my current bike.

I don't need to swap bikes, I don't expect to be suddenly faster but it's really caught my eye and I'm thinking is there any real reason why I shouldn't....?

Thanks for any replies

Rob

Miles253

Why the hell not Foils are nice! I see no reason you couldn't just slot in your old wheels. How hilly is your terrain though? As I'm under the impression aero benefits are still to be considered, and those Syncros wheels are nice. Plus that aero frame was meant for aero wheels even just for aesthetics.

How much is it by the way?

thegreatdivide

I’ve got a Foil 10 and I find it a fantastic long distance bike. The stiff frame does not give a harsh ride and it does a sterling job going up and down hills.

Mine’s kitted out with Zipp 303FC tubs, Campagnolo Record and a lightweight San Marco saddle and it comes in sub 6kg. I love it.

norvernrob

Miles253 wrote:

Why the hell not Foils are nice! I see no reason you couldn't just slot in your old wheels. How hilly is your terrain though? As I'm under the impression aero benefits are still to be considered, and those Syncros wheels are nice. Plus that aero frame was meant for aero wheels even just for aesthetics.

How much is it by the way?

Thanks for the reply

Hilly as in the majority of my rides are in the Peak District, on a 50 mile ride we'll average 4-5,000ft of climbing. There isn't a massive difference in wheel weight, the syncros that come on the Scott are 1.65kg and my current Shimano RS81's are 1.5kg.

It's £3k down from £6k, full Sram red (apart from dura ace chain and cassette, I'd change the cassette anyway to an 11-28). Ritchey carbon bars, stem and seatpost. Adding up the retail cost of the groupset, wheels and finishing kit it comes to over £2k, so the frame is costing around £800 which has to be a bargain surely.

thegreatdivide wrote:

I’ve got a Foil 10 and I find it a fantastic long distance bike. The stiff frame does not give a harsh ride and it does a sterling job going up and down hills.

Mine’s kitted out with Zipp 303FC tubs, Campagnolo Record and a lightweight San Marco saddle and it comes in sub 6kg. I love it.

Excellent, thanks! That's some reassurance that it isn't going to be too harsh. I'm only 37 not 67 anyway and not ready for a brooks saddle just yet I think the standard bike weighs 6.7kg, I could drop that a little with different wheels and saddle but I'm still not sure whether I'd switch the wheels out or not.

norvernrob

Well I still haven't pulled the trigger and bought it :roll: I keep looking, keep wanting, but feel slightly guilty as my wife is talking about buying a business for herself, and all I'm thinking about is a new bike

norvernrob

Finally bit the bullet and ordered!

Going to get a bike fit done on it soon, read good things about Adrian at cadence sport - any opinions on the place?

Grill

Why do you need a bike fit? Is there something wrong with your current position?

norvernrob

Grill wrote:

Why do you need a bike fit? Is there something wrong with your current position?

No, I can ride for 5 hours and get off with no pains other than a bit of neckache from spending quite a lot of time on the drops (Peak district riding).

But....there's always the feeling, 'could I be more efficient' - and the price of a fit isn't that much compared to 3 grand for the bike. I guess most people have the same thought at some point or another.

Grill

NorvernRob wrote:

Grill wrote:

Why do you need a bike fit? Is there something wrong with your current position?

No, I can ride for 5 hours and get off with no pains other than a bit of neckache from spending quite a lot of time on the drops (Peak district riding).

But....there's always the feeling, 'could I be more efficient' - and the price of a fit isn't that much compared to 3 grand for the bike. I guess most people have the same thought at some point or another.

If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it 'til it is.

Save your money.

sloppyschleckonds

Shame thats not Red 22 but its no biggy.

norvernrob

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Shame thats not Red 22 but its no biggy.

The 2014 model with dura ace 22 is £6k, everything else is exactly the same. I'm not sure if they do a red22 version, but at £3k cheaper I'm happy with the 20!

Grill wrote:

NorvernRob wrote:

Grill wrote:

Why do you need a bike fit? Is there something wrong with your current position?

No, I can ride for 5 hours and get off with no pains other than a bit of neckache from spending quite a lot of time on the drops (Peak district riding).

But....there's always the feeling, 'could I be more efficient' - and the price of a fit isn't that much compared to 3 grand for the bike. I guess most people have the same thought at some point or another.

If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it 'til it is.

Save your money.

Thanks, I'll get myself setup on it when it comes on Monday!