Steering Query

chrisdouglas
chrisdouglas Posts: 114
edited May 2014 in MTB workshop & tech
Hey folks so I've got a little question I'm hoping everyone could help me with.

So I'm riding a 2013 Kona Hei Hei 29r. Love it, but I do have a clone main issue. That's the steering. I've found recently that as I'm railing around corners or changing direction that the front end feels a bit twitchy. A couple of times mid corner the front wheel just skips a fraction further than I want it too and provides a hit and miss moment.

Trying to determine wether it was me or the bike I've rode my friends Whyte T129s and another ones Kona Tanuki. Both bikes felt a lot more planted in the corners and never once threatened to throw me over the bars. I've looked at specs and from what I can gather the head angle on my Hei Hei is 70 degrees whilst the others are around 68. And that I have a 60mm stem with 740mm bars.

The width of the bars feels very comfortable however I feel a little stretched sometimes to the bars, I was wondering f fitting a shorter stem may help? Can anyone tell me if this will help? Or do you have any other suggestions? Cheers if you can help out guys!!
2013 Kona HeiHei - 29 Life

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Comments

  • IT66T
    IT66T Posts: 377
    cyd190468 wrote:
    Sketchy front grip generally means you don't have enough weight on the front or you're running too much pressure in the front tyre. I run 25psi front on a 29er. To encourage you to put more weight forward you could try moving your seat forward 5mm. It makes a surprising amount of difference.

    +1

    I totally agree with this as to much air in the front tyre will cause a fair amount slippage or bounce and as said above that just moving the saddle forward that 5mm will make it more comfortable for you and easier to put a bit more weight over the front wheel giving you more control over the steering ..
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    What forks set at what sag and is the damping adjustable if so where is it in relation to max and min?
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • chrisdouglas
    chrisdouglas Posts: 114
    Thanks for the tips guys will try both suggestions for my next ride out. I am currently running around 30-32PSi so that may well be a factor.

    As for suspension it's a rockshox xc32. Honestly can't tell you settings as I haven't ventured into experimenting with it yet
    2013 Kona HeiHei - 29 Life

    http://www.lakesrider.weebly.com
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Set the fork up, too stiff or too much damping will have a similar effect to too much tyre pressure and you'll "ping" off things, too soft will make it dive through the travel effectively steepening the head angle making it twitchy.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    This ^^^^^ plus tyres also make a difference. My Vitus 29er came with Maxxis Aspen tyres and the first proper ride I nearly needed a new pair of clean shorts. Swapped to an On One Smorgasbord on the front and tons better I could push the front really hard
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  • Cqc
    Cqc Posts: 951
    You should be standing up in most corners too, so moving your seat won't do much
  • chrisdouglas
    chrisdouglas Posts: 114
    Well I'm gonna try changing the psi I'm running and maybe try a couple of sections with the saddle forwar slightly but I feel comfortable when I'm on the bike already. I'll take it one change at the time. At some point something will click I imagine though
    2013 Kona HeiHei - 29 Life

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    At least set the sag on the forks to the right amount!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    The Rookie wrote:
    At least set the sag on the forks to the right amount!

    This ^^^ it will take minutes cost nothing and will probably sort it.
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  • chrisdouglas
    chrisdouglas Posts: 114
    Apologies didn't realise I hadn't wrote that. Yeah I will be setting the sag correctly also
    2013 Kona HeiHei - 29 Life

    http://www.lakesrider.weebly.com