mine and my sons new bikes, what do you think???

retrorage

hi guys im new to the forums, iv just finished mine and my sons bike ready for the summer, spent a fair bit on upgrades and making the bikes just how I want them, would like your thoughts and input please

retrorage

sorry the pictures are not bigger but the forums would not let me post a larger picture here is the photobucket links

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retrorage

60 views and no feed back

ilovedirt

Not too shabby at all mate, which is yours and which is your sons? Both solid bikes.

The Northern Monkey

Look great! Need more mud!

stubs

Time to go out and thrash em, crash em and bash em. Only thing I would add is get some protection on the chain stays even if you have clutch mechs the chain can jump off and put gouges in the frame.

retrorage

mine is the boardman my sons is the voodoo, I spent about 800 quid on the boardman and about 700 on the voodoo putting on better parts, but now I cant get my over weight son out on his bike, think iv just wasted a 1100quid

J3w3ll3r

Are the frames the same, just halfords badge them differently?

retrorage

stubs wrote:

Time to go out and thrash em, crash em and bash em. Only thing I would add is get some protection on the chain stays even if you have clutch mechs the chain can jump off and put gouges in the frame.

thanks for the heads up will get some fitted asap

retrorage

J3w3ll3r wrote:

Are the frames the same, just halfords badge them differently?

no the boadman is a lot lighter and better finished off, the boardman looks like a carbon with the smooth welds, the boardman has more triangle shaped tubing and the voodoo is round tubing

retrorage

the only 2 things left on both bikes that came with them when bought new are the wheels and frame the rest I changed (too much spare time and cash burning a hole in my pocket) I was going to go the full sus'er way but for some reason they don't do it for me

gt-arrowhead

retrorage wrote:

but now I cant get my over weight son out on his bike, think iv just wasted a 1100quid

You should have got your son to help with the building, perhaps he would have been motivated to ride the bike if he was involved in the building.

Rambo_123

Show him some videos of Red Bull Rampage, if that doesn't make you want to ride then i don't know what will (Just avoid the clips of crashes).

retrorage

i tried to get him involved but he is more interested in online gaming lol, he is 17 and is 17 stone he is only 5foot7, both me and the wife are not over weight, his weight was the reason i got the bikes in the first place, just can't seem to win

brocklanders

Turn off the broadband router,job done!

Angus Young

brocklanders wrote:

Turn off the broadband router,job done!

And put a padlock on the fridge.

Seriously, though, if he showed no interest at the build stage it's no surprise that he's not interested in riding. Power to you for trying to do the right thing, but I suspect you've got quite a task on your hands. But if you can find a way of getting him through the first few months he'll probably start to find it addictive (especially once he starts to see results, physically), so don't give up too easily. Maybe give him the better of the two bikes. That might be one small incentive. Also, if he's a computer guy, have a dig around for the various apps that link to cycling (strava's the first thing that springs to mind) so that you're starting to relate the cycling to something that he's comfortable with.

stubs

Tie a Donut to the back of your bike he will soon try and catch up

firestorm_westy

Hi - I have a Voodoo too - Could I ask what upgrades you did to your Son's bike?

Did you stick with the standard brakes and crankset?

Thanks!

retrorage

Angus Young wrote:

brocklanders wrote:

Turn off the broadband router,job done!

And put a padlock on the fridge.

Seriously, though, if he showed no interest at the build stage it's no surprise that he's not interested in riding. Power to you for trying to do the right thing, but I suspect you've got quite a task on your hands. But if you can find a way of getting him through the first few months he'll probably start to find it addictive (especially once he starts to see results, physically), so don't give up too easily. Maybe give him the better of the two bikes. That might be one small incentive. Also, if he's a computer guy, have a dig around for the various apps that link to cycling (strava's the first thing that springs to mind) so that you're starting to relate the cycling to something that he's comfortable with.

I'm sure I will get him on it one way or another will just unplug the router lol

retrorage

firestorm_westy wrote:

Hi - I have a Voodoo too - Could I ask what upgrades you did to your Son's bike?

Did you stick with the standard brakes and crankset?

Thanks!

I put the full 2014 deore group set on it made it 20speed put some 100mm xc32 rockshox on it they are load better then the suntour that was on it put a thomson x4 elite 70mm zero rise stem, easton 680mm handlebars, saint pedals, fsa headset, and hope seat post, lizard skin grips and charge spoon saddle

retrorage

and if I can't get him to ride the dam thing it will be for sale as well

gt-arrowhead

He is more interested in gaming? tut tut. I once was too. (i am also 17 btw) Then i realised that Call of Duty made my blood boil, and bikes are awesome and fun.

Just force him to come out on a ride with you one day, and take him somewhere really nice to ride and he may really enjoy it.

Also try having a serious sit down with him and explain to him that he should be trying to lose weight, and you really want him to take up cycling to really get into shape.

Super Dee

retrorage wrote:

60 views and no feed back

I wouldn't worry. I had over 450 views and just 3 comments recently!

Nice bikes though. Keep working on it. Father and son MTB rides are cool. I did them with my dad in the late 80's and do them with my son now.

buddy_club

retrorage wrote:

i tried to get him involved but he is more interested in online gaming lol, he is 17 and is 17 stone he is only 5foot7, both me and the wife are not over weight, his weight was the reason i got the bikes in the first place, just can't seem to win

I had the same thing except it was the other way round, i took it up properly last summer and lost a few stone, and then just after christmas i wanted my dad to do some well as he was 6ft4 and 20st, he was previously extremely fit when he was in the army but he's put on a few pounds over the years. So i looked at lots of bikes with him, told him about all the specs and what is good and whats not, and all the way he was completely involved in choosing his bike. Now we ride every weekend locally and at Trail Centers. He used to get loads of back pain but now thats completely gone and he;'s lost about a stone already! I was just always really persistent in getting him to talk to me about bikes and in the end he got addicted!

poah

retrorage wrote:

and if I can't get him to ride the dam thing it will be for sale as well

get to a trail centre - makes it a lot more fun.

ej2320

POAH wrote:

retrorage wrote:

and if I can't get him to ride the dam thing it will be for sale as well

get to a trail centre - makes it a lot more fun.

That's what got me into mtb

Went to Cannock on an Spesh Hardtail I was planning to use on roads/very light off road
Rode the monkey trail, very slowly, but I've been hooked since

Kowalski675

stubs wrote:

Tie a Donut to the back of your bike he will soon try and catch up

apreading

What I dont get is why you spent so much and put so much effort into changing his bike, if he wasnt riding it? Lesson to others here - get them riding first and THEN change the bike if necessary (much less annoying and cheaper if they dont take it up).

The Rookie

J3w3ll3r wrote:

Are the frames the same, just halfords badge them differently?

Eh, both makes are totally independent of Halfords, it's just both have a sales agreement with Halfords. That said both have their frames made by Merida and that is more likely the source of any commonality. (Merida also make Carrera, Pinnacle, I believe the Hoy's as well as most Specialized).