Chain Cleaner and how often?

celf-fella
celf-fella Posts: 28
edited April 2014 in MTB general
Time to lean on the experience and knowledge of you guys.

I have bought chain cleaner tool that cleans the chain with nylon brushes as the chain travels through a reservoir of degreaser. There is only a very small bottle of the degreaser supplied with the tool...what else can i use when it has all gone, and how often.....after every ride??

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  • philcubed
    philcubed Posts: 260
    I use mucoff in the reservoir after every ride. Rinse and dry. Relube.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    No - you want lube inside the rollers - degreasing removes it then you need to get more inside.
    Personally I never degrease. I use Squirt (wax based lube). Reapply as required, and replace the chain every year or so.
    It doesn't pick up gunk like oily lubes.
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  • BigAl
    BigAl Posts: 3,122
    cooldad wrote:
    No - you want lube inside the rollers - degreasing removes it then you need to get more inside.
    Personally I never degrease. I use Squirt (wax based lube). Reapply as required, and replace the chain every year or so.
    It doesn't pick up gunk like oily lubes.

    I've never used Squirt - but have seen you recommend it a number of times now.

    Does it work like the blurb says? Wipe down the chain and re-apply?

    I'm using Finish Line wet lube, and while perfectly good, it does create a right old mucky grinding paste which I need to clean regularly
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Yep. Works like magic. I apply maybe once a month in dry weather, every few rides in wet weather.
    Any mud or dirt just hoses or wipes off. It doesn't form greasy grinding paste like oil based lubes.
    You have to follow the instructions - degrease chain properly, apply the day before a ride to let it get inside and the water to evaporate, then just reapply as necessary. After a bit of riding, there's nothing at all visible on the outside.
    I'm a bit of a fanboi, but for me it just works.
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  • bladeone
    bladeone Posts: 94
    I use squirt stuff does keep the muck off well any dirt on there I just wipe off with a cloth,

    but when do you know when to reaply the squirt
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  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    cooldad wrote:
    Yep. Works like magic. I apply maybe once a month in dry weather, every few rides in wet weather.
    Any mud or dirt just hoses or wipes off. It doesn't form greasy grinding paste like oil based lubes.
    You have to follow the instructions - degrease chain properly, apply the day before a ride to let it get inside and the water to evaporate, then just reapply as necessary. After a bit of riding, there's nothing at all visible on the outside.
    I'm a bit of a fanboi, but for me it just works.

    Just ordered some today on your recommendation. You owe me £7.99 if it's crap. :)
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    You wasted 80p.
    I blame Wiggle
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  • BigAl
    BigAl Posts: 3,122
    Just ordered some too and I didn't overpay by 80p

    All my drivetrain is off the bike and in the process of becoming sparkly clean.
  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    cooldad wrote:
    You wasted 80p.
    I blame Wiggle
    BigAl wrote:
    Just ordered some too and I didn't overpay by 80p

    I got free delivery, so it was cheaper.
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  • JBA
    JBA Posts: 2,852
    I have also joined the Squirters.

    Any recommendations for a decent chain degreaser? I have one of those clamp over the chain cleaners but suspect that it doesn't really get the grease from inside the rollers.
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  • BigAl
    BigAl Posts: 3,122
    I'll probably get lynched for this, but....

    Remove chain
    Clean with something soapy. I used Fairy Liquid and an old toothbrush
    Rinse
    Rinse
    Rinse
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Some petrol/white spirit in a jar, soak and shake then as BigAl does above with a proper dry. Then Squirt. But only need to do the full scrub down a couple of times in a chain's life.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    This ^^^ then just rinse thoroughly and hang up to dry.

    I only do it once - when the original factory lube is finished.
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  • BigAl
    BigAl Posts: 3,122
    Yep white spirit/petrol is good too, just not in your wife's / mum's kitchen.

    Dont forget to give you cassette / chainrings / jockey wheels the same treatment

    I have in the past put a cassette (separated into sprockets) in the dishwasher. Worked for me! Just make sure you rinse well afterwards. (Retreats expecting howls of derision)
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    One of my (awesome 80’s multi-coloured) lycra jerseys says top shelf dishwasher safe, but I’ve never actually tried it.
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  • JBA
    JBA Posts: 2,852
    Cheers, chaps.
    A couple of days in a jar of petrol should do the trick.

    I like the idea of using the dishwasher but not sure SheWhoMustBeObeyed will approve. :)
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  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    It doesn't need a couple of days! It needs about 30 seconds, agitate it a bit.

    Personally I use a Finish Line Grunge Brush, which IMO is far better than the reservoir type cleaners, with washing up liquid, rinse, lube. Squirt is excellent in the dry, IMO it's not all that in the wet, doesn't last.
  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    njee20 wrote:
    Personally I use a Finish Line Grunge Brush, which IMO is far better than the reservoir type cleaners, with washing up liquid, rinse, lube. Squirt is excellent in the dry, IMO it's not all that in the wet, doesn't last.

    Here's my version.


    Mind you, plays havoc with your teeth afterwards!
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  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    Top bodging!
  • Thewaylander
    Thewaylander Posts: 8,593
    I actually really like that idea! lol
  • Angus Young
    Angus Young Posts: 3,063
    Works a treat. Not sure one of those bath things would do much more. And I have a habit of saving old toothbrushes as they come in handy for all those odd cleaning jobs.
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  • FishFish
    FishFish Posts: 2,152
    shake then as BigAl does . Then Squirt. But only need to do the full scrub down a couple of times.

    Wnkr :D
    ...take your pickelf on your holibobs.... :D

    jeez :roll:
  • thanks for the fee-back all. I guess everyone has their own preferred choices. Though i may give one or two of the suggestions mentioned a try
  • jon1993
    jon1993 Posts: 596
    Buy a couple of litres of engine degreaser its about £10 for 5 litres from Halfords its stronger than the spray on stuff and removes everything near enough instantly just run It though the brushes quick wipe and done.
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