Surfing

Pross
Pross Posts: 43,597
edited September 2014 in The cake stop
Any surfers on here? Hoping to finally start soon and will be building myself a board with help from a mate that builds hollow wood and composite EPS / wood veneer boards. Apparently I'm building an 8' Tomo composite, the blank is there and I start shaping in a couple of weeks which should be fun considering I'm useless at DIY and craft type stuff and it's going to have a bit of weight to carry!

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  • crumbschief
    crumbschief Posts: 3,399
    edited April 2014
    Good luck with it i have always fancied having a go,i asked my mate Charlie to give it a try but he don't surf.


    Blue Juice :)
  • Mikey23
    Mikey23 Posts: 5,306
    From time to time but I'm a bit rubbish...
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    Mikey23 wrote:
    From time to time but I'm a bit rubbish...

    At least it won't hurt so much when you fall off :P
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • Feltup
    Feltup Posts: 1,340
    I surf but not often enough to be good. I ride a 6'2 twin and have just got a kitesurf specific 5'10 which I will also surf when the conditions are good i.e. headhigh and above, the rest of the time I will kite on it.
    Short hairy legged roadie FCN 4 or 5 in my baggies.

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  • feltkuota
    feltkuota Posts: 333
    Good luck with it i have always fancied having a go,i asked my mate Charlie to give it a try but he don't surf.


    Blue Juice :)


    The horror.....
  • Daz555
    Daz555 Posts: 3,976
    Surfing is one of the finest sports/pastimes on this planet.

    Sadly it really does require regular attention if you are to remain any good at it - primarily because the kind of strength you need for surfing you can really only get from surfing. These days I'm fairly hopeless. :(
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  • eric_draven
    eric_draven Posts: 1,192
    I have been surfing for 22/23 years or so now this is my first love and will very rarely ride my bikes if there is surf,plus i live on the coast so it's on my doorstep,basically you need a board with plenty of float to learn on,this more buoyant and will let you catch waves early,giving you more time to think about what you are doing,this is why a lot of people start on longboards,as you get better you can start stepping down in size,never overestimate you ability or you may end up with a board that is no good to you,i myself am no lightweight at 14+st,even surfing this amount of time i no I am never going to ride a tooth pick,but if you have good fitness and strength this can make up for a lot,sounds like your friend is pointing you in the right direction size wise,also get to go with someone who can surf,then ask them what you are doing wrong

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    every now and again i get it right,if the bug bites you expect to be hopelessly addicted
  • 4kicks
    4kicks Posts: 549
    Shaping blanks is REALLY hard. The rest of it is just process, but either get your buddy to do it for you or plan on binning a couple, getting a symetrical profile and a reasonable rocker & rail profile is, at least when I tried it (!) as hard as pushing Sh*t uphill with a sharp stick. Cant tell you how to surf, I just windsurf and occasionally kitesurf.
    Fitter....healthier....more productive.....
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    I'll be in good hands, he's done dozens of surfboards, SUPs and a couple of boats. Some real works of art. His blog is
    http://woodfloatingart.blogspot.co.uk and shows a few examples. He's used to my muppetry from when I used to try to help him fix my cars!
  • eric_draven
    eric_draven Posts: 1,192
    ya mate certainly makes some nice stuff,the retro simonds is simply stunning
  • Flâneur
    Flâneur Posts: 3,081
    Can't build, can just about surf but is there a better way to clear your head than catching a few waves or even just a paddle. Damn it now you have made me miss living in Cal again.

    Enjoy the project and put a pic up when it is done, love a good board
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Started building the board yesterday (with plenty of expert assistance!). Here it is before shaping

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    And after shaping / filling

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    Next step is a bit of a rub down and then starting to put the fibreglass on. The finish will be bamboo veneer over the fibreglass with metallic black painted rails. I'm assured it has plenty of bulk to help a novice surfer but it will basically be a straight line board.
  • eric_draven
    eric_draven Posts: 1,192
    an interesting combination novice surfer and an e-wing tail "designed for tighter turns"
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  • 4kicks
    4kicks Posts: 549
    Its hard to tell from one photo, but it looks like your core has no rail profile, vee nor concave bottom shapes.
    Im by no means an expert, but if so, was that by design? I totally failed trying to get a concave single to double vee profile in the one windsufer I tried to build!
    Fitter....healthier....more productive.....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Making a windsurfer I think is a bit more tricky. Generally you can get away with fairly little vee in a surfboard, so long as you have a good tailshape. A double vee would be a nightmare, let alone getting it consistent. I think most home makers were happy to just stick extra fins on to make them more slashy! Now I have my mistral twinzer, I'm pretty happy, but only good up to mast high...
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    4kicks wrote:
    Its hard to tell from one photo, but it looks like your core has no rail profile, vee nor concave bottom shapes.
    Im by no means an expert, but if so, was that by design? I totally failed trying to get a concave single to double vee profile in the one windsufer I tried to build!

    No, it has both. We spent a few hours shaping the rails they are just a bit hidden by the angle of the photo. You can just about make them out at the nose end. It has a concave base as well. I'll get some better angles when I go back to glass it. He knows a bit about getting the most out of board shapes, he's been beating sponsored competitors riding several grand of carbon SUP on his own timber SUP - he's board design's answer to Graeme Obree!
  • 4kicks
    4kicks Posts: 549
    no offense, but Im sure if HE did it it will be fine,. I wouldn't trust an amateur (like me) with that step. Hard to see contours on a white surface.
    Fitter....healthier....more productive.....
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    edited April 2014
    In the background of my after photo you can just make out a couple of his other boards. The front one (a fish I believe) is superb, I saw another he has done for a mutual friend (ex 1st cat roadie) that was waiting to get shipped out to Australia. I think the one behind it is a half finished hollow timber mini Simmons. I also saw an egg he'd made for another ex-cyclist friend that was designed to make the most of particularly steep waves in Morocco. When I'm next there I'll get some snaps of those as well as some better ones of mine as the picture above doesn't do it justice.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    A few finished articles

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  • bernithebiker
    bernithebiker Posts: 4,148
    Cool looking boards!

    Now try and do this with them;

    http://www.reubynash.com/site/topics/video/

    This is my wife's cousin from Cornwall, and now one of the best surfers in the world….
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    I'll settle for being able to stand up on one for a few seconds! Very impressive though, most of the surfing stuff you see uses big waves so it was refreshing to see what can be done on smaller stuff.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Finally picked up the finished article. Hoping to get a set of fins and a leash so that I can christen it at the weekend. If I can't ride it at least it would look good hanging on the wall! :)

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    Crappy photos don't do it justice. It will be nice knowing I helped make it myself, especially as I'm useless and making things normally.
  • Looks pretty sweet!

    My other half has just gone out and bought a Stand Up Paddle board (seems all the 40 something wives are doing it..!)

    Given how much the bloody thing cost ("well you spend that much on bike bits!"), I'm hoping you saved a fair bit of wedge making yours yourself!
  • arran77
    arran77 Posts: 9,260
    That's very cool looking and if the surfing doesn't work out it'll make a sweet looking coffee table :D
    "Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity" :lol:

    seanoconn
  • certainly an interesting shape,not something i would suggest to learn on,but i would like to have a session on it,just to see what it goes like
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    Looks pretty sweet!

    My other half has just gone out and bought a Stand Up Paddle board (seems all the 40 something wives are doing it..!)

    Given how much the bloody thing cost ("well you spend that much on bike bits!"), I'm hoping you saved a fair bit of wedge making yours yourself!

    I'd have got one made for you. Damon, who helped me build the board (well, built it for me really) races SUPs and manages to put a few noses out of joint by beating sponsored riders on carbon boards while using his home made timber board. Seeing him doing training on the local canal is amusing. I'm going to have a go soon, supposed to be great for core strengthening. If the board suits me I'll just be 'donating something towards the cost of materials'. If I don't get on with it he'll swap it for a refurbed 9' long board.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,597
    certainly an interesting shape,not something i would suggest to learn on,but i would like to have a session on it,just to see what it goes like

    The idea behind it is that it will have enough volume for a novice going in straight lines in small waves but then with a bit more experience it will give a bit more manoeuvrability than a normal beginners board. We'll see how it goes, it's a bit of an experiment for him as well as a project for me to have a go at an assisted build. If I can't get on with it I'll swap it for a more traditional long board. Biggest issue at the moment is finding the right fins in stock somewhere. I was going to have some wooden ones made and fixed into the board but eventually we decided it would be safer to use fin boxes and buy some as it is easier to sort out if they get broken.