'Taff' Racism Case

Pross

As a proud Welshman I have to say I was embarrassed at seeing this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-26752592 and the subsequent amount of money the case will presumably cost. OK so it is alleged the phrase was used as an insult but FFS, it's just a commonly used term for a Welshman in the same way as Jock is used for a Scot. I doubt there's a regiment in the British army without at least one member called Taff. I'd be too ashamed to go back to work as a bouncer after this!

sloppyschleckonds

It's bonkers boyo

RideOnTime

How did he know they were Welsh? bit sheepish? leeks in their pants?

nathancom

Mae dy fam yn llyfu cociau mul

Sawilson

ddwywaith yr wythnos mewn gwirionedd

Pross

RideOnTime wrote:

How did he know they were Welsh? bit sheepish? leeks in their pants?

As they were in Lydney I'm guessing they stood out as they were the only ones not married to a relative.

Pross

Sawilson wrote:

ddwywaith yr wythnos mewn gwirionedd

Good to know she's cut back.

russyh

Pross wrote:

RideOnTime wrote:

How did he know they were Welsh? bit sheepish? leeks in their pants?

As they were in Lydney I'm guessing they stood out as they were the only ones not married to a relative.

This ^^^^^^^^

RDW

Mae fy hofrenfad yn llawn llyswennod

sungod

i'll have a consonant please carol

taff..

bompington

Nid wyf yn y swyddfa ar hyn o bryd. Anfonwch unrhyw waith i'w gyfieithu.

RDW

bompington wrote:

Nid wyf yn y swyddfa ar hyn o bryd. Anfonwch unrhyw waith i'w gyfieithu.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003469.html

RonB

RDW wrote:

Mae fy hofrenfad yn llawn llyswennod

... as luck would have it, Lydney would be as good a place as any to come across such an situation.

Frank the tank

Why do Welsh words appear to have been written on an enigma machine?

andy_f

I've tried to pronounce each one of these foreign statements and now have a keyboard covered in phlegm.

Moonbiker

Rwy'n meddwl medru i yn ddarllen Cymraeg, ond i chi i gyd yn ddefnyddio geiriau hir: (

Giraffoto

But surely . . . Welsh isn't a race?

capt_slog

Mistranslations. This was my favourite....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm

Garry H

Frank the tank wrote:

Why do Welsh words appear to have been written on an enigma machine?

Because you can't speak Welsh...

lakesluddite

Giraffoto wrote:

But surely . . . Welsh isn't a race?

You could probably get about three dozen definitions of 'race', but still be none the wiser, or closer to what the word actually means.

Where do you stop being a certain race, and just be a native? Is Welsh a race or merely a nationality? Should it automatically be racism if you insult someone using a geographical insult? Is calling someone a Yorkshire tw*t racism? I don't consider being a Yorkshireman my race, but some might (as long as they are from Gods Own County [TM]), but surely it's more of a regional thing, I suspect the defendant and the complainant are actually the same race?

So then is it about ethnicity, or is it about religion, or some of both?

Can. Worms. Open....

florerider

nathancom wrote:

Mae dy fam yn llyfu cociau mul

pumdeg un o dri

Peddle Up!

Giraffoto wrote:

But surely . . . Welsh isn't a race?

Exactly. Madness.

Loretta Damage

Pross wrote:

As a proud Welshman I have to say I was embarrassed at seeing this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-26752592 and the subsequent amount of money the case will presumably cost. OK so it is alleged the phrase was used as an insult but FFS, it's just a commonly used term for a Welshman in the same way as Jock is used for a Scot. I doubt there's a regiment in the British army without at least one member called Taff. I'd be too ashamed to go back to work as a bouncer after this!

Irish Guards possibly

Giraffoto

LakesLuddite wrote:

Giraffoto wrote:

But surely . . . Welsh isn't a race?

You could probably get about three dozen definitions of 'race', but still be none the wiser, or closer to what the word actually means.

Where do you stop being a certain race, and just be a native? Is Welsh a race or merely a nationality? Should it automatically be racism if you insult someone using a geographical insult? Is calling someone a Yorkshire tw*t racism? I don't consider being a Yorkshireman my race, but some might (as long as they are from Gods Own County [TM]), but surely it's more of a regional thing, I suspect the defendant and the complainant are actually the same race?

So then is it about ethnicity, or is it about religion, or some of both?

Can. Worms. Open....

I'd be very insulted if anyone reminded me I'm originally from Essex, but I don't regard it as a race. It should be a non-issue - if you met, say, Prince Charles, you wouldn't subsequently describe it as "I met this white bloke today"

team47b

The names "Wales" and "Welsh" are from the Proto-Germanic word "Walhaz" meaning...foreigner

ballysmate

So Hengist was really Jonnny Wales?
Horsa.. Johnny Welsh?

eric_draven

Pross wrote:

As a proud Welshman I have to say I was embarrassed at seeing this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-26752592 and the subsequent amount of money the case will presumably cost. OK so it is alleged the phrase was used as an insult but FFS, it's just a commonly used term for a Welshman in the same way as Jock is used for a Scot. I doubt there's a regiment in the British army without at least one member called Taff. I'd be too ashamed to go back to work as a bouncer after this!

I guess this is down to the intelligence of the average bouncer "i can't spell it,but i can pick it up",probably they were under cameras so they weren't able to beat the hell out of the guy calling them Taffs, like they would of done years ago,so they are trying to make it look like they are more intelligent,whilst making themselves look proper numpties instead

mr_goo

I used to be a Special Constable in Dorset Police and remember attending a meeting held by a liaison officer concerned with political correctness. Essentially we were told that we couldn't tell any jokes whilst in company of other officers ie there was an Englishman, Irishman and Scottsman. etc etc.
I asked whether calling a Welshman 'Taff' was also banned even though said recipient of the tag wasn't offended. "Yes" came back the answer, because the recipient of the label Taff may be offended by it but too embarrassed or frightened to object to it.