superstar or uber bike floating?

mike hunts alpine

Looking to tart the bike up a bit... Spare Bday money and fancy some floating rotors.
Anybody tried the superstar ones or the uber bike ones.
Pros and cone please.
Slightly in favour of ss as they do green and orange ones.

Chunkers1980

None. I stick to solid rotors, less to go wrong.

Find something to bling else where

papertech202

I replaced both discs with Uber bike floating on my 29er as I was always having issues with noise and chatter from the brakes.
Fitted discs in October and have performed faultlessly during all winter, for the money its a no brainer

rockmonkeysc

Floating rotors are completely pointless and just add weight.

Chunkers1980

That's hardly a glowing endorsement.

My solids have being faultless for approaching 10,000 miles and 4 years. I've seen floaters, floating after a few months.

poah

superstar and uberbike are the same generic Taiwan made rotor.

superstar are £1 cheaper though

personally I find the ice tech rotors more bling than the coloured ones (TBH they look a bit gay)

cooldad

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Floating rotors are completely pointless and just add weight.

This^^^^^^^^^ + add issues.

And as I've just agreed with Rockmonkey, look outside and watch the pigs soar overhead.

Tigger con carne

I have a pair of Superstar rotors. I did have to file part of the brake caliper down to allow for the extra clearance needed for the rivets attaching the floating braking surface to the central spokes of the rotor. This was a problem with Shimano M446 calipers so might not be an issue with higher model or other manufacturer brakes though and even then it took about 10 minutes to do both front and rear. The rotors feel good though I don't do any long descents which might give them more of a work out

Chunkers1980

You filed a brake caliper down to fit a floater. :shock:

Tigger con carne

Chunkers1980 wrote:

You filed a brake caliper down to fit a floater. :shock:

It's not unheard of

brucie45

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Floating rotors are completely pointless and just add weight.

This

papertech202

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Floating rotors are completely pointless and just add weight.

Firstly floating rotors are actually lighter due to the alloy carrier combined with steel braking rotor rather than whole steel rotor.
Regarding your comment 'Completely pointless' is this based on some quantifiable argument or is it just your opinion.

The theory behind floating discs is well proven (motorcycle technology etc) and whilst I agree it may be overkill for your average rider they do offer a benefit in extreme conditions to prevent warping, so to dismiss as pointless without any justification is perhaps misleading to the OP.

cooldad

the op stated he wanted to tart his bike up. Is that what you mean by extreme?

Chunkers1980

OP doesn't want their percieved performace benefits, he wants the bling. They are all bling and problems.

They are not actually lighter due to the alloy carrier - they can be, but often aren't and should be taken on a case by case basis.

papertech202

Chunkers1980 wrote:

OP doesn't want their percieved performace benefits, he wants the bling. They are all bling and problems.

They are not actually lighter due to the alloy carrier - they can be, but often aren't and should be taken on a case by case basis.

Sorry I took the OP's question of pro's and cons to mean benefits and drawbacks, and that was what I was commenting on.
In relation to weight I have yet to see a floating disc setup that was heavier than a standard comparable sized rotor but I'll bow to your obvious greater knowledge.

Regarding perceived benefits ,it is not a perception it is a documented fact that floating discs in the majority of circumstances can prevent warping,again though I'll submit to you greater knowledge on this matter.

Oh for the record I like the red ones

Chunkers1980

There's your problem. Red makes you go faster, with brakes that's not a good thing.

brucie45

Chunkers1980 wrote:

OP doesn't want their percieved performace benefits, he wants the bling. They are all bling and problems.

They are not actually lighter due to the alloy carrier - they can be, but often aren't and should be taken on a case by case basis.

CAWT

supersonic

Standard rotors can be made lighter than floating rotors - I've seen them at 70g or so for a 160mm.

mike hunts alpine

Not fussed about the weight as it would probly be the same weight as if I eat a banana before a ride or not or if I take a protein flapjack With me. Weight is not issue as were probably talking 150g at max (very rough guess) not like putting bricks in my pack to make me faster on the dhs.

Chunkers1980

Weight is not my real issue with them. They after hit calipers/mounts/fork/frame and they are prone to coming loose at the rivets.

The Northern Monkey

In that sense then, arent all shimano CL rotors floating? (Genuine question, not sure what determins a rotor to be floating).

Floating rotors are less likely to warp iirc, super lightweight standard rotors bend like plastic in a microwave.

The Northern Monkey

Also, 178g for 203mm rotors is pretty good is it not? Cant see much lighter for the cost or without going for a stupid disk pattern with more gaps than metal.

supersonic

Shimano rotors with the alloy spider are solid rivets, no 'float'.

benpinnick

papertech202 wrote:

RockmonkeySC wrote:

Floating rotors are completely pointless and just add weight.

Firstly floating rotors are actually lighter due to the alloy carrier combined with steel braking rotor rather than whole steel rotor.
Regarding your comment 'Completely pointless' is this based on some quantifiable argument or is it just your opinion.

The theory behind floating discs is well proven (motorcycle technology etc) and whilst I agree it may be overkill for your average rider they do offer a benefit in extreme conditions to prevent warping, so to dismiss as pointless without any justification is perhaps misleading to the OP.

Superstar 160mm 108g
Uberbike 160mm 108g
Hope 160mm 98g

....

Hates L2 steel disc - 160mm 90g

njee20

KCNC steel disc 73g

I had some of the lightweight 1.8mm Hope floating rotors. I destroyed both in one race, it was so gritty I wore the pads, then the backing pad, so I was using the rivets to stop. Well outside their usual operating range, so one of those things, but steel rotors would have been fine, if a little scratched, rather than £70 of bin fodder!