Scott Foil 30 2013 (and SRAM Rival)

Slo Mo Jones

Anyone got a Foil 30? I've seen only one review online (Rutland cycles), which was very positive, but there seems to be very little else about it anywhere.

Also (relative newby question) SRAM Rival - how is it different from Shimano / Campag in terms of how it works?

Ta

DHA987S

I had one. It was stiff, very stiff.

Slo Mo Jones

DHA987S wrote:

I had one. It was stiff, very stiff.

Good stiff or bad stiff?

luv2ride

My introduction to road cycling was on a Campag equipped Condor (borrowed off a mate), and have since had bikes with SRAM and Shimano. I now only have SRAM equipped bikes (one with Apex, the other with Force) as I much prefer it to Shimano. Main thing for me is that the gear lever is separate from the brake lever, as I tended to apply the brake when changing gear with Shimano 105 (5600). SRAM is more positive shifting, similar to Campag, but Shimano was lighter. Very much personal preference though..

Slo Mo Jones

Luv2ride wrote:

My introduction to road cycling was on a Campag equipped Condor (borrowed off a mate), and have since had bikes with SRAM and Shimano. I now only have SRAM equipped bikes (one with Apex, the other with Force) as I much prefer it to Shimano. Main thing for me is that the gear lever is separate from the brake lever, as I tended to apply the brake when changing gear with Shimano 105 (5600). SRAM is more positive shifting, similar to Campag, but Shimano was lighter. Very much personal preference though..

Thanks

If the shifter is separate from the brake lever, how does it work? Click left for up, right for down? One click for up, two clicks for down? Please excuse my retardation.

Grill

Slo Mo Jones wrote:

DHA987S wrote:

I had one. It was stiff, very stiff.

Good stiff or bad stiff?

I've had a couple Foils. Definitely good stiff.

Garry H

Slo Mo Jones wrote:

Luv2ride wrote:

My introduction to road cycling was on a Campag equipped Condor (borrowed off a mate), and have since had bikes with SRAM and Shimano. I now only have SRAM equipped bikes (one with Apex, the other with Force) as I much prefer it to Shimano. Main thing for me is that the gear lever is separate from the brake lever, as I tended to apply the brake when changing gear with Shimano 105 (5600). SRAM is more positive shifting, similar to Campag, but Shimano was lighter. Very much personal preference though..

Thanks

If the shifter is separate from the brake lever, how does it work? Click left for up, right for down? One click for up, two clicks for down? Please excuse my retardation.

Long sweep tp shift down,short click to shift up.Think of it as same as shimano,but all in one lever.

Slo Mo Jones

Garry H wrote:

Slo Mo Jones wrote:

Luv2ride wrote:

My introduction to road cycling was on a Campag equipped Condor (borrowed off a mate), and have since had bikes with SRAM and Shimano. I now only have SRAM equipped bikes (one with Apex, the other with Force) as I much prefer it to Shimano. Main thing for me is that the gear lever is separate from the brake lever, as I tended to apply the brake when changing gear with Shimano 105 (5600). SRAM is more positive shifting, similar to Campag, but Shimano was lighter. Very much personal preference though..

Thanks

If the shifter is separate from the brake lever, how does it work? Click left for up, right for down? One click for up, two clicks for down? Please excuse my retardation.

Long sweep tp shift down,short click to shift up.Think of it as same as shimano,but all in one lever.

My shitty 2012 sora has the thumb shifters, which don't suit my stubby thumbs in the drops.

DHA987S

Grill wrote:

Slo Mo Jones wrote:

DHA987S wrote:

I had one. It was stiff, very stiff.

Good stiff or bad stiff?

I've had a couple Foils. Definitely good stiff.

Good stiff, unless you carry a shoulder injury (like me)

Grill

DHA987S wrote:

Grill wrote:

Slo Mo Jones wrote:

DHA987S wrote:

I had one. It was stiff, very stiff.

Good stiff or bad stiff?

I've had a couple Foils. Definitely good stiff.

Good stiff, unless you carry a shoulder injury (like me)

13 dislocations and counting...

ride_whenever

I find the foil too stiff, it's bloody fast but there are plenty of bikes out there that are super stiff without giving up on compliance. Personally the aero gains from most aero road frames really don't justify the decrease in comfort, and probably end up slower for the bulk of cyclists.

thegreatdivide

I've ridden centuries on my Foil 10 and it's given me no bother at all.

I've also got the hands of a small primate and Campagnolo shifters give me zero hassle.

bradders1979

Find my foil more comfortable than my Spesh Allez. This bike makes you want to ride fast, I don't really come off feeling sore due to lack of comfort. I've ridden a few centuries on mine also.
Brad

Slo Mo Jones

It's a beauty