New Bike & Security Reccomendations

bartos1976

Newbie here, just had a Voodoo Hoodoo stolen at less than a year old. Only had an Abus combination cable lock as only ever locked up for a few minutes at a time while i nipped in shops until I started a new job. The location of the job meant i could ride in to work, on the first day I worked out where the bike stands were and was happy to see right outside the front door. Under the noses of secuirty and in an always busy smoking area. I was happy, that was me riding to work the next day. On the 2nd day I finished and you've guessed the bike had gone, anyway ive just ordered a new bike and what opinions on it. I think ive done pretty well for the money, with all discounts and cashback I got it for £520

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/corr ... -prod91545

It won’t be coming to work until I’m happy with my security of it, just thought I’d use this opportunity to ask for recommendations.

I’m looking at the following..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kryptonite-Evol ... ion+mini+7

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Onguard-Pitbull ... tbull+mini

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Abus-Sinus-Plus ... abus+sinus

Or if there any others anyone could recommend it’d be greatly appreciated

cooldad

Buy a cheap £50 POS off Ebay and a £1.99 lock for commuting.

bartos1976

Excuse my ignorance what is POS?

cooldad

Piece of sh1t. Although it can be a decent bike. I got a Rockhopper for £34, sold some nice bits off it for £20 odd, added some cruddy bits from my stash, almost a free commuter/pub bike.
Looks a bit manky but rides perfectly.
And if someone nicks it they must need it a lot more than I do.

coulddobetter

Cooldad has a point. Had my boardman nicked from a locked garage . It had 3 locks on it ( mistake i made was using cables) Now don't leave the insurance replacement anywhere.

Minimum I would say is 2 good d locks . Cables are too easily cut. Think like a thief and secure whhels /forks etc . No point securing frame and having wheels and fork nicked.

sgtpepper1969

Get an onguard brute Ls,this is an 17mm shackle & Ls is long enough to go through your back wheel & whatever your locking it to & get a onguard pitbull mini to lock your front wheel to your frame,both are sold secure gold & can be found on eBay at very reasonable price,I personally don't like leaving my bike anywhere for to long & it lives in the house

bartos1976

Thanks sgt and as for buying a POS, i will be if this one gets nicked. I'm off to pick it up this evening

Will be getting insured, would you guys insure to RRP or price paid?

sgtpepper1969

I did a bit of research before buying my locks, there is a standard onguard brute but Ls version has a longer shackle & like I said will go through your back forks,wheel & whatever your locking it to,at 17mm only an angle grinder will get through that,if you want indestructable chain then check out almax & pragmasis but they ain't cheap,you could also add the cost of your locks,lights & cycle helmet to the cost of your insurance?

bartos1976

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight, the bike at home will be locked in doors.

Next on my shopping list is a rucksack want something that comes with a bladder and reasonable space for a change of clothes but wow, they're expensive.

schlepcycling

sgtpepper1969 wrote:

I did a bit of research before buying my locks, there is a standard onguard brute but Ls version has a longer shackle & like I said will go through your back forks,wheel & whatever your locking it to,at 18mm only an angle grinder will get through that,if you want indestructable chain then check out almax & pragmasis but they ain't cheap,you could also add the cost of your locks,lights & cycle helmet to the cost of your insurance?

Another vote for Pragmasis http://securityforbikes.com/ They do package deals of chains and locks, as said they're not cheap but they are very good.

buddy_club

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight, the bike at home will be locked in doors.

Next on my shopping list is a rucksack want something that comes with a bladder and reasonable space for a change of clothes but wow, they're expensive.

Lots of cheaper ones to be had on ebay or amazon, mostly about £15-£20, i picked up one of these in cotswolds for £30 the other day: http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/vango-ra ... colour=124

Kowalski675

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight,

Who's gonna watch your bike while it's left unlocked when you go inside to get your locks?...

bartos1976

buddy_club wrote:

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight, the bike at home will be locked in doors.

Next on my shopping list is a rucksack want something that comes with a bladder and reasonable space for a change of clothes but wow, they're expensive.

Lots of cheaper ones to be had on ebay or amazon, mostly about £15-£20, i picked up one of these in cotswolds for £30 the other day: http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/vango-ra ... colour=124

Thanks mate, that doesn't look a bad buy

bartos1976

Kowalski675 wrote:

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight,

Who's gonna watch your bike while it's left unlocked when you go inside to get your locks?...

I'll leave them locked to the racks

Kowalski675

bartos1976 wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight,

Who's gonna watch your bike while it's left unlocked when you go inside to get your locks?...

I'll leave them locked to the racks

Not a good idea.

bartos1976

Kowalski675 wrote:

bartos1976 wrote:

Kowalski675 wrote:

bartos1976 wrote:

Yeah never thought of that, thanks. I've just ordered the locks and will leave them at work because of the weight,

Who's gonna watch your bike while it's left unlocked when you go inside to get your locks?...

I'll leave them locked to the racks

Not a good idea.

Why's that? appears quite common

The Rookie

Its not unknown for a tea leaf to put glue in the locks, then you have no lock or you leave your bike exposed while you get it......once he's seen you arrive he knows you'll be arriving the same time every day.....

swod1

even at my work with the bike in a secure car park that needs card and code entry to get in as well as over the top cctv, i still use two expensive locks.

the best idea is to once you have your new bike, get a cheap one from a car boot or something to ride around on.

i'm looking at that idea myself but dont think i have room for 3 bikes

Kowalski675

The Rookie wrote:

Its not unknown for a tea leaf to put glue in the locks, then you have no lock or you leave your bike exposed while you get it......once he's seen you arrive he knows you'll be arriving the same time every day.....

That's what I replied last night, but for some reason my post doesn't seem to have saved. Age old trick - they fill the lock with superglue, hoping you'll be daft enough to leave the bike unlocked.

bartos1976

I've just got rid of a shit heap that was given to me, i want to enjoy the ride to work especially the journey home which is all up hill.

Do they really do that with locks? Looks like i'll be carrying the extra weight then. I'm not daft enough to leave it unattended but don't like the idea of replacing the locks

I've took on Sgt Pepper advice re the locks and looking at a pinhead headset lock for the forks the without some serious power tools hopefully only think they could make off with is the seat and post

Kowalski675

bartos1976 wrote:

Do they really do that with locks?

Yup.

bartos1976

Any insurance recommendations from anyone?

cooldad

Your insurance company.

bartos1976

hey thanks for that