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  • stubs
    stubs Posts: 5,001
    Dandy Dan 69 wrote:
    Am I imagining it or did Ritchey release a steel 'hardtail' in the mid-90s with some sort of suspension in the seatstays but relied on the chainstays flexing?

    The soft tail They were awesome bikes I lusted after one but no one would buy a kidney off me

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  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    How about an Allsop beam?

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  • Kowalski675
    Kowalski675 Posts: 4,412
    supersonic wrote:
    How about an Allsop beam?

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  • Dandy Dan 69
    Dandy Dan 69 Posts: 45
    stubs wrote:
    Dandy Dan 69 wrote:
    Am I imagining it or did Ritchey release a steel 'hardtail' in the mid-90s with some sort of suspension in the seatstays but relied on the chainstays flexing?

    The soft tail They were awesome bikes I lusted after one but no one would buy a kidney off me

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    That's the one.

    I wonder how long the chainstays lasted for?
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  • paulbox
    paulbox Posts: 1,203
    spongtastic wrote:
    slime inner tubes not on the list?

    What don't you like about slime inner tubes?

    I know they are a bit heavier, but a mate of mine has been using them very successfuly for the last couple of years. I'm just about to give up on tubeless and give them a go.
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  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    How do you know they are any more successful for him?
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    Am I imagining it or did Ritchey release a steel 'hardtail' in the mid-90s with some sort of suspension in the seatstays but relied on the chainstays flexing?

    Loads of people did them in various materials, popular when XC FS bikes were bouncy and heavy.

    Carbon Trek STP, they actually had a shock:
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    Ti Moots YBB:
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    I very nearly got an STP like the one up there, 2001, they were decently light, and got 70mm of travel IIRC. £1300 for a frame, £3200 for the complete bike with full XTR, those were the days!
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    edited February 2014
    One on top here is pretty odd too.

    Ibis Bow Ti

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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Better pic

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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Techie pic

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The 2010/11 Orbea carbon framed FS had flex chain stays and a linkage driven shock.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    And the Cannondale Scapel. But they all have some sort of 'proper' pivot somewhere, softails, and the Bow Ti don't.

    Incidentally a good condition Bow Ti is worth an absolute fortune now! Sadly they virtually all broke!
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The Orbea had no pivot between front triangle and the dropouts.....
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • dannyjames8
    dannyjames8 Posts: 11
    I like the list
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    njee20 wrote:
    And the Cannondale Scapel. But they all have some sort of 'proper' pivot somewhere, softails, and the Bow Ti don't.

    Incidentally a good condition Bow Ti is worth an absolute fortune now! Sadly they virtually all broke!

    Yep, the guy who owns the Bow Ti in my first pic is fairly comfortably off - he has a bit of a stable. My £34 Ebay Rockhopper is directly underneath, for comparison. I am obviously very poor.
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  • paulbox
    paulbox Posts: 1,203
    Chunkers1980 wrote:
    How do you know they are any more successful for him?
    Because I ride with him at least once a week and he never gets punctures. I've also witnessed them doing their thing after he has pulled a thorn out of his tyre.

    To be honest, I've had more issues while running tubeless while riding with him than he has had using slime tubes. He has had zero problems that have required attention, I've had two tyre holes that Stan's gloop couldn't seal.
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