Castelli Gabba Jersey

relanium
relanium Posts: 487
edited January 2014 in Road general
Does anyone know the best way to wash a "Castelli Gabba Jersey"? I was out yesterday and got it dirty from road spray.
Can I use normal fabric conditioner / washing powder to wash it?
Once washed, do I need to re-waterproof it with Nikwax Techwash?
Cheers.

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  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    From the Castelli site =

    WATERPROOFING

    The Castelli waterproof jackets and vests have been treated with a Durable Water-Repellant finish (DWR), which keeps the outer fabric from becoming saturated so that the breathable barrier can do its job. This coating needs to be replenished periodically, following the directions below or by applying a commercially available water repellent product.

    - To maintain optimal wind and water resistance, apply a water repellent treatment to clean and dry fabrics. Clean the garment first.

    - The water repellent treatment can be applied as soon as the fabric is completely dry.

    - Place the garment on a coat hanger in a well-ventilated room or in the open air and spray on the water repellent treatment.

    - Leave the garment on the coat hanger and wait until it is completely dry before wearing it. 100 percent protection will be achieved after around 24 hours.

    - To enhance this waterproofing effect, you can then place the jacket in the tumble dryer for around 5 minutes at lowest temperature.
  • bianchimoon
    bianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    relanium wrote:
    Does anyone know the best way to wash a "Castelli Gabba Jersey"? I was out yesterday and got it dirty from road spray.
    Can I use normal fabric conditioner / washing powder to wash it?
    Once washed, do I need to re-waterproof it with Nikwax Techwash?
    Cheers.
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  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    BR published an article about washing DWR a couple of weeks ago...

    http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/artic ... ear-39469/
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    Don't underestimate the power of just hosing it down after a muddy ride too. Too much washing is not a good idea...
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  • TheHound
    TheHound Posts: 284
    I'm sure the Gabba is different.

    Th waterproofing is built in to the fabric and not a treatment. It's to do with some silicon balls or something. A short spin in the tumble dryer on low heat does the trick.

    Don't take this as gospel, I just remember reading it elsewhere.
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    Sir Velo Posts: 143
    As above cold (or low temp) was without detergent/conditioner is often a good way of prolonging the live of water resistant garments. Usually wash my rain jacket in the sink after a muddy ride and then hang up to drip dry, seems to get the mud and muck off fine (I guess the water proofing means it doesn't sink into the fabric). Then occasionally a low temp, small amount of detergent wash keeps it fresh.

    Don't know if that would work on the gabba as it is more jersey/next to skin so the sweat might be more of an issue.

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  • Lol just had a horrible ride and jacket is muddy too.

    That post above from their site is very contradictory as they suggested via twitter that you should;

    Was muddy jackets in water to get rid of dirt

    Then wash in washing machine with Nikwax to prolong the waterproof treatment.


    I'm sure someone who originally posted this could repost but that's what I thought your meant to do.

    I've got nikwax at hand ready to use just want to check what temp to wash on, guess 40 ..
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  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Thanks for the replies guys, yes there is a small smell of sweat in the jersey.
    Was thinking about washing the gabba top in "Halo Proactive Sports Wash Laundry Detergent", but would I need to
    re-waterproof it after the wash?
  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    I'd give it a bit of a febreze spray inside if its not actually dirty.
  • Chris87
    Chris87 Posts: 224
    for something like the gabba you don't need to add a DWR treatment.

    To wash it all you need to do is give it a good rinse with warm water, if its got any really bad muck on it use a special tech wash such as nikwax.

    Using regular detergent can not only make the waterproof treatment less effective it also clogs the fabric making it less breathable.

    You don't need to add an additional DWR as the gabba is made of fabric that has a silicone treatment in the actual fibres themselves. All you need to do once its washed and dried is run an iron over it on a low setting (as the treatment label suggests) and this will refresh the waterproofing.

    I wouldn't recommend spraying it with febreze as this could damage the fabric.

    On a separate note, if your going to spend that much on a jersey do you not think it would be a good idea to read the care label?
  • designman
    designman Posts: 405
    I have a gabba jersey and it's beginning to smell really bad with sweat, I have not washed it since I bought the jersey just in case I did any damage to the water proofing fabric.
    Any helpful suggestions on what I can wash the jersey in?
    I'm sure someone suggested on here to wash the jersey with "Halo Proactive Sports Wash Laundry Detergent" as stated by "Relanium"..
  • I've washed mine 4-5 times on a sports wash with non bio liquid. Haven't seen/ felt any problems yet.
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  • Nikwax enough said, castelli advice it on twitter so can't be bad to wash it with that.
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  • designman wrote:
    I have a gabba jersey and it's beginning to smell really bad with sweat, I have not washed it since I bought the jersey just in case I did any damage to the water proofing fabric.
    Any helpful suggestions on what I can wash the jersey in?
    I'm sure someone suggested on here to wash the jersey with "Halo Proactive Sports Wash Laundry Detergent" as stated by "Relanium"..

    Halo is great stuff. Some kind of antibacterial wash is a good idea for shorts in particular, and it keeps everything smelling fresh. I imagine that it will deplete waterproof treatments over time (none of my kit is waterproof, so I can't comment), but that will happen anyway. I wouldn't want to wear kit I couldn't actually clean.
  • borisface
    borisface Posts: 273
    Just buy another one. LOL. They're a fantastic bit of kit aren't they? I've washed mine either on a cool 30degree quick wash ie 15 mins but with no powder or conditioner or just rinsed it off in luke warm water and let it drip dry. Mind you it did shrink dreadfully and and the arms fell off (not really).
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,831
    Nikwax enough said, castelli advice it on twitter so can't be bad to wash it with that.

    I want to have a go at redoing my Gabba but on Amazon there's about 3 different waterproofing Nikwax products and I have no idea which one I need :?

    Do I get the wash in one, the spray on one or the softshell spray on one?? Anyone help please.
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  • Chris87
    Chris87 Posts: 224
    from the castelli website -

    Specialist Castelli Care
    Castelli waterproof and water resistant jackets and vests (garments using eVent, Gore-Tex, Windstopper etc) Can and should be cleaned with a specialist detergent that cleans out the membrane fabrics without damaging the membrane or surface fabrics these detergents can be purchased in outdoor shops, selected large cycle retailers and online. Look for brands like Nikwax and Grangers they will have specific names like gore-tex wash!

    These garments have also been treated with a Durable Water-Repellant finish (DWR), which keeps the outer fabric from becoming saturated so that the breathable barrier can do its job. This coating needs to be replenished periodically, Follow the instructions with the treatment or the directions below there are lots of companies that retail these treatments my reccomendations are Grangers Spray-On, McNett Revivex, Nikwax TX-Direct and Tectron DWR Treatment.

    As well as being use on shell and softshell garments DWR can be applied to Nano-Flex to increase the water repellancy

    To maintain optimal water resistance, apply a water repellent treatment to clean and dry fabrics.

    Clean the garment first (see above) make sure the garment is completely rinsed.
    The water repellent treatment can be applied as soon as the fabric is completely dry.
    Place the garment on a coat hanger in a well-ventilated room or in the open air and spray on the water repellent treatment.
    Leave the garment on the coat hanger and wait until it is completely dry before wearing it. 100 percent protection will be achieved after around 24 hours.
    To enhance the DWR waterproofing effect, at any time, you can place the garment in a tumble dryer for around 20 minutes at the lowest temperature. I would recommend that if you do this you place the item in an old pillow case first. Or very carefully iron with a cool iron PLACE a cloth between the iron and the garment surface.

    This should only be attempted if the instruction label clearly states you can tumble dry or iron, If you are in any doubt DO NOT try this.

    - See more at: http://www.castellicafe.co.uk/blog/stuf ... yhsdT.dpuf
  • Just spoke to a family member who works for gore and he says a light wash, preferably with no product then 10 mins in tumble drier after its drip dried.
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  • relanium
    relanium Posts: 487
    Chris87 wrote:
    from the castelli website -

    Specialist Castelli Care
    Castelli waterproof and water resistant jackets and vests (garments using eVent, Gore-Tex, Windstopper etc) Can and should be cleaned with a specialist detergent that cleans out the membrane fabrics without damaging the membrane or surface fabrics these detergents can be purchased in outdoor shops, selected large cycle retailers and online. Look for brands like Nikwax and Grangers they will have specific names like gore-tex wash!

    These garments have also been treated with a Durable Water-Repellant finish (DWR), which keeps the outer fabric from becoming saturated so that the breathable barrier can do its job. This coating needs to be replenished periodically, Follow the instructions with the treatment or the directions below there are lots of companies that retail these treatments my reccomendations are Grangers Spray-On, McNett Revivex, Nikwax TX-Direct and Tectron DWR Treatment.

    As well as being use on shell and softshell garments DWR can be applied to Nano-Flex to increase the water repellancy

    To maintain optimal water resistance, apply a water repellent treatment to clean and dry fabrics.

    Clean the garment first (see above) make sure the garment is completely rinsed.
    The water repellent treatment can be applied as soon as the fabric is completely dry.
    Place the garment on a coat hanger in a well-ventilated room or in the open air and spray on the water repellent treatment.
    Leave the garment on the coat hanger and wait until it is completely dry before wearing it. 100 percent protection will be achieved after around 24 hours.
    To enhance the DWR waterproofing effect, at any time, you can place the garment in a tumble dryer for around 20 minutes at the lowest temperature. I would recommend that if you do this you place the item in an old pillow case first. Or very carefully iron with a cool iron PLACE a cloth between the iron and the garment surface.

    This should only be attempted if the instruction label clearly states you can tumble dry or iron, If you are in any doubt DO NOT try this.

    - See more at: http://www.castellicafe.co.uk/blog/stuf ... yhsdT.dpuf


    So judging from this statement from the Castelli website, don't wash the Gabba Jersey with fabric conditioner, special laundry detergents, or non bio liquids….
    Just wash the jersey with either Nikwax or Grangers products.
    If that is so, which Nikwax or Grangers product is the best to wash them with (ie removing sweat smells & muck) ?
  • Nikwax tech wash is good for outdoor kit and provides a waterproof treatment, but it isn't antibacterial. I'd use Halo (etc) and apply a proofer periodically if I were you, but I don't own a Gabba...
  • designman
    designman Posts: 405
    From the recommendation from the Castelli website, Nikwax or Grangers is the best to wash a Gabba Jersey.
    But do Nikwax or Grangers do a wash which removes smells like sweat?
    Or are they both just like a re-waterproofer?
  • Chris87
    Chris87 Posts: 224
    You need tech wash, this is just to wash it, not re proof it

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B000LN5 ... X110_SY165

    Once you've washed it and dried it just give it a quick iron on a low temp and it will be fine
  • designman
    designman Posts: 405
    Chris87 wrote:
    You need tech wash, this is just to wash it, not re proof it

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B000LN5 ... X110_SY165

    Once you've washed it and dried it just give it a quick iron on a low temp and it will be fine

    Would tech wash remove the waterproofing in the Gabba Jersey?
    This will be the first time the jersey has been washed since bought.
    Would I need to re-waterproof the jersey after washing with tech wash?
    Thx.
  • Chris87
    Chris87 Posts: 224
    No, on the Gabba the waterproofing comes from a treatment applied to the fabric itself that is different to a normal DWR treatment, all you need to do to refresh it is run an iron over it on a low setting, all of this is on the Castilli website, just google it.

    If you want you can add a further level of waterproofing by treating it with a DWR from nikwax but this shouldn't be necessary.
  • brettjmcc
    brettjmcc Posts: 1,361
    rozzer32 wrote:
    Nikwax enough said, castelli advice it on twitter so can't be bad to wash it with that.

    I want to have a go at redoing my Gabba but on Amazon there's about 3 different waterproofing Nikwax products and I have no idea which one I need :?

    Do I get the wash in one, the spray on one or the softshell spray on one?? Anyone help please.

    Rory - Go for the softshell one IMO, by the way GO Outdoors stock it if you have one near you. The best way to do this is by tracing the material product manufacturer and their recommendation - GORETEX. I believe it is made of Windstopper, so see here: http://www.windstopper.co.uk/remote/Sat ... ionWrapper
    Thanks for the replies guys, yes there is a small smell of sweat in the jersey.
    Was thinking about washing the gabba top in "Halo Proactive Sports Wash Laundry Detergent", but would I need to
    re-waterproof it after the wash?

    No you wouldn't, I have said this in another thread. I have a Gabba and have washed it for nearly a year in Halo and it's OK. I am only now thinking of respraying with Nikxwax, but that's because I worry too much...
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