Wheel choice & weight constraints
ai_1
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I'm ordering a new bike which comes with Mavic Ksyrium Elite S WTS wheels or I could upgrade to Mavic Cosmic Carbone SLE WTS Exalith 2 wheels for an extra €600.
I do a mix of flat and hilly cycling. Mostly sportives to date but I've started doing duathlons and triathlons too so aero wheels will be on the cards at some point even if i don't get them now.
I weigh about 88kg at the moment but that should come down to low 80s over the next few months.
My question is this: If you were me, would you buy the bike with the Carbones and get some cheaper €300ish wheels for training and windy days or would you get the Ksyriums and wait a while to upgrade to aero wheels?
The Carbones are usually about €1500 versus €550 for the Ksyriums so €600 for the upgrade looks like a good deal.
Here's why I'm not sure:
1. Both are pretty lightly built wheels. 16/20 spokes for the Carbones and 18/20 spokes for the Ksyriums - and I'm nervous they might be a little marginal on durability at my weight in which case bad idea to splash out.
2. Not sure the Carbones are the ideal aero wheels. Supposedly they're not as good in the wind as some other designs. However I do like the idea of the Exalith brake track which seems to get good reviews.
I do a mix of flat and hilly cycling. Mostly sportives to date but I've started doing duathlons and triathlons too so aero wheels will be on the cards at some point even if i don't get them now.
I weigh about 88kg at the moment but that should come down to low 80s over the next few months.
My question is this: If you were me, would you buy the bike with the Carbones and get some cheaper €300ish wheels for training and windy days or would you get the Ksyriums and wait a while to upgrade to aero wheels?
The Carbones are usually about €1500 versus €550 for the Ksyriums so €600 for the upgrade looks like a good deal.
Here's why I'm not sure:
1. Both are pretty lightly built wheels. 16/20 spokes for the Carbones and 18/20 spokes for the Ksyriums - and I'm nervous they might be a little marginal on durability at my weight in which case bad idea to splash out.
2. Not sure the Carbones are the ideal aero wheels. Supposedly they're not as good in the wind as some other designs. However I do like the idea of the Exalith brake track which seems to get good reviews.
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Once you accept that you are only human and you want the Cosmic for the way they look and you really don't give a toss about the extra 0.2 mph they give you on a flat road, then you know what to do.
Peer pressure and nonsense aside, the Elite S are a high end race wheel setleft the forum March 20230 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:Once you accept that you are only human and you want the Cosmic for the way they look and you really don't give a toss about the extra 0.2 mph they give you on a flat road, then you know what to do.
Peer pressure and nonsense aside, the Elite S are a high end race wheel set
Actually. Now that you mention it peer pressure is a good reason NOT to get the aero wheels. I reckon if I get a load of fancy gear it'll be used as a joking excuse whenever I beat my friends and will be a source of amusement whenever I lose!
Okay - Ksyriums Elites it is!
Incidentally Ugo - do you know how these perform with riders around my weight? Mostly okay?
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I ride with a set of hand built clinchers, cost me under £500 they weigh 1182grms pair. [20x24]
I am a solid 85 kilo's [minimum fat] and have had no issues at all and I am out riding most days.
Hand built wheels are the way to go IMO0 -
Ai_1 wrote:
do you know how these perform with riders around my weight? Mostly okay?
Probably notI'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0 -
I've got a set of Ksyrium elite Ss and am about your weight. No problems so far and they've done about 3000km. A friend who's about the same weight had a set for 5 years and they never went out of true.0
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I don't see your weight being a major issue. Most Mavic customers are happy, some experience problems and that's when they give up Mavic altogether, as the support to what they sell ends with the warranty and if you want the warranty to cover the extras, such as crashes etc, then you have to pay extra for their protection planleft the forum March 20230
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Thanks for the help guys0
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rayjay wrote:I ride with a set of hand built clinchers, cost me under £500 they weigh 1182grms pair. [20x24]
I am a solid 85 kilo's [minimum fat] and have had no issues at all and I am out riding most days.
Hand built wheels are the way to go IMO
Hi Rayjay, Can I ask what these wheels are and where you got them?
I'm a lanky 75kg, and would love a pair of clinchers fitting this description for an alpine holiday... the lighter and stiffer the better.0 -
1182g a pair for under £500, that is quite amazing. The usual saying: light, strong, or cheap, pick any two of the three. You seem to have found all three with these, I'd also be interested to source some.0
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rayjay wrote:I ride with a set of hand built clinchers, cost me under £500 they weigh 1182grms pair. [20x24]
I am a solid 85 kilo's [minimum fat] and have had no issues at all and I am out riding most days.
Hand built wheels are the way to go IMO
These sound like what ive been looking for for a long long time.
Can you give us more details?0