Your mental tricks
bianchimoon
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After watching the sky documentary again and their use of psychologist, just wondered if any of you use mental tricks to get you to the top of that step hill a little faster. Personally on really long climbs I count to keep a rhythm or look at points in the road ahead to aim for, but could do with some new ideas? :idea:
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
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When running hard races I used to count strides up to 100 and keep repeating over and over again just to take my mind off the hurt. I don't find riding that stressful. So on long rides I sing to myself which helps to maintain concentration and get me up the painful bits0
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I break climbs up into 100m of ascent. I know that 100 m is roughly the distance from the valley floor up to where I live that I do at the end of most rides.
I know I can do that no problem, I just do it 10+ times back to back!
Also when riding short power climbs I'll start at 100 (or some other number depending on the length of the climb) and count down every crank revolution to take my mind of the fact my legs are screaming at me to stop!0 -
"Shut up legs."Red bikes are the fastest.0
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while thinking about this did some googling
SET ASIDE FEAR
“If you’re afraid of a hill,” says Swoap, “you’re more likely to want to get it over with.” You might wind up attacking it too hard and too early, and wear out too soon.
pretty safe to say unless it's a 'small' hill I wont't be attacking too hard!
THINK POSITIVE
“Negative thoughts become self-defeating behavior,” says Ileana Sisson, MS, a psychotherapist and cycling coach. Come up with your own version of Jens Voigt’s famous “Shut up, legs!” mantra.
Shut up legs, shut up lungs, shut up heart
FOCUS ON NOW
The best competitors stay in the moment, Swoap says. They’re not thinking, How am I going to make it to the top? Instead they focus on immediate concerns like, What cadence do I want right now?How is my breathing?Are my shoulders relaxed?
easier to do when you're on your own
DIVIDE AND CONQUER
Break a climb into manageable chunks, says Kevin Dessart, director of coaching education and athlete development at USA Cycling. Picture crossing each segment off a list as you complete it.
yeah, tend to do that one
LOOK DOWN
Here’s a chance to use a visual illusion to your advantage: Instead of gazing toward the top of a hill, direct your gaze toward the shortest safe distance ahead of your front wheel. “When you look down at the road,” Dessart says, “it seems level.”
definitely, looking for the top is a downer!
LOSE YOUR ILLUSION
Don’t let your perception of terrain fool you. Pay attention to objective clues to your effort, like heart rate or pedal pressure.
will try this one, if i can get legs to shut upAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
Listen to your inner chimpmy isetta is a 300cc bike0
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FOCUS ON NOW
The best competitors stay in the moment, Swoap says. They’re not thinking, How am I going to make it to the top?
LOOK DOWN
Here’s a chance to use a visual illusion to your advantage: Instead of gazing toward the top of a hill, direct your gaze toward the shortest safe distance ahead of your front wheel. “When you look down at the road,” Dessart says, “it seems level.”
definitely, looking for the top is a downer!
^^ These two definitely.0 -
team47b wrote:Listen to your inner chimpAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0
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I used to think of sex, but now I'm old I just think of.....death.0
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I thought it was just me that did this!! If I'm on a road with a dashed white line down the centre, as I get closer to the brow of the hill I start to count how many 'dashes' are left to pass. If there's more than ten, I usually lose where I am counting to on the road before I get to the top, but from 10(ish) onwards I then count down every one I pass until I'm at the top! Works for me!
I also tend to aim for specific points as the OP said - splitting the climb down by targeting going past trees, lamposts, gates etc... but counting down takes your mind off the climb(/pain)."I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated"0 -
Clickrumble wrote:I used to think of sex, but now I'm old I just think of.....death.
Merry Christmas anyway.0 -
bianchimoon wrote:team47b wrote:Listen to your inner chimp
It was.
But sometimes you can over think things, allowing things to appear more difficult than they actually are.
ps I can't eat bananas, fast acting carbs, Durianrider eats my share :roll:my isetta is a 300cc bike0 -
In the summer I'm normally gasping for a drink - so I tell myself that I have to get to a certain place then I can have a drink ... totally daft, but it keeps me going ...0
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team47b wrote:bianchimoon wrote:team47b wrote:Listen to your inner chimpAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0
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Do you remember the story "The Little Engine" from when you were little ?............... "I think I can, I know I can, I think I can, I know I can........"
Repeat until you reach the top !
Like counting, it takes your mind off things, but is a little more motivatingScience adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved0 -
MattC59 wrote:Do you remember the story "The Little Engine" from when you were little ?............... "I think I can, I know I can, I think I can, I know I can........"
Repeat until you reach the top !
Like counting, it takes your mind off things, but is a little more motivating
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9xO98kcBUAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
fix eye about 2m in front and have a drum beat in your head in time with your legs.0
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I try to focus on my breathing and try to keep it slow and deep.0
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On Alpine climbs I measure them in the si unit of 'haytors' (335m), so even Mont Ventoux is only 5h. Each haytor takes me about 20 minutes on an average Alpine climb, so it's easy to work out how long to the top.0
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Arthur Scrimshaw wrote:I try to focus on my breathing and try to keep it slow and deep.
I focus on my breathing and staying away from the light... the voices of my ancestors can be off-putting though.Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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bianchimoon wrote:A....Personally on really long climbs I count to keep a rhythm or look at points in the road ahead to aim for, but could do with some new ideas? :idea:
When climbing the Port De Bales my girlfriend hummed just keep swimming from 'Finding Nemo'; worked a treat and by the end of the tour nearly all were doing it
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I like hills. I hate flats. I always say to myself "I wish this hill was longer or better still, an alpine climb".
(I hate hills when i am unfit)seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
Dunno just keep turning the pedals, it has to end at some point and the harder you pedal the faster the pain ends.0
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When climbing count the half turns of the cranks 1, 2, 3 and on the 3rd push a bit harder.0