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bianchimoonbianchimoon Posts: 3,942
edited January 2014 in Road beginners
After watching the sky documentary again and their use of psychologist, just wondered if any of you use mental tricks to get you to the top of that step hill a little faster. Personally on really long climbs I count to keep a rhythm or look at points in the road ahead to aim for, but could do with some new ideas? :idea:
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....

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  • Mikey23Mikey23 Posts: 5,028
    When running hard races I used to count strides up to 100 and keep repeating over and over again just to take my mind off the hurt. I don't find riding that stressful. So on long rides I sing to myself which helps to maintain concentration and get me up the painful bits
  • schweizschweiz Posts: 1,644
    I break climbs up into 100m of ascent. I know that 100 m is roughly the distance from the valley floor up to where I live that I do at the end of most rides.

    I know I can do that no problem, I just do it 10+ times back to back!

    Also when riding short power climbs I'll start at 100 (or some other number depending on the length of the climb) and count down every crank revolution to take my mind of the fact my legs are screaming at me to stop!
  • DiscoBoyDiscoBoy Posts: 905
    "Shut up legs."
    Red bikes are the fastest.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 50,121 Lives Here
    "If that fat f*ck can get up there, you bloody well can as well"
  • bianchimoonbianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    while thinking about this did some googling

    SET ASIDE FEAR
    “If you’re afraid of a hill,” says Swoap, “you’re more likely to want to get it over with.” You might wind up attacking it too hard and too early, and wear out too soon.

    pretty safe to say unless it's a 'small' hill I wont't be attacking too hard!

    THINK POSITIVE
    “Negative thoughts become self-defeating behavior,” says Ileana Sisson, MS, a psychotherapist and cycling coach. Come up with your own version of Jens Voigt’s famous “Shut up, legs!” mantra.

    Shut up legs, shut up lungs, shut up heart

    FOCUS ON NOW
    The best competitors stay in the moment, Swoap says. They’re not thinking, How am I going to make it to the top? Instead they focus on immediate concerns like, What cadence do I want right now?How is my breathing?Are my shoulders relaxed?

    easier to do when you're on your own

    DIVIDE AND CONQUER
    Break a climb into manageable chunks, says Kevin Dessart, director of coaching education and athlete development at USA Cycling. Picture crossing each segment off a list as you complete it.

    yeah, tend to do that one

    LOOK DOWN
    Here’s a chance to use a visual illusion to your advantage: Instead of gazing toward the top of a hill, direct your gaze toward the shortest safe distance ahead of your front wheel. “When you look down at the road,” Dessart says, “it seems level.”

    definitely, looking for the top is a downer!

    LOSE YOUR ILLUSION
    Don’t let your perception of terrain fool you. Pay attention to objective clues to your effort, like heart rate or pedal pressure.

    will try this one, if i can get legs to shut up
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • team47bteam47b Posts: 6,424
    Listen to your inner chimp :D
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • diamonddogdiamonddog Posts: 3,368
    FOCUS ON NOW
    The best competitors stay in the moment, Swoap says. They’re not thinking, How am I going to make it to the top?


    LOOK DOWN
    Here’s a chance to use a visual illusion to your advantage: Instead of gazing toward the top of a hill, direct your gaze toward the shortest safe distance ahead of your front wheel. “When you look down at the road,” Dessart says, “it seems level.”
    definitely, looking for the top is a downer!

    ^^ These two definitely.
  • bianchimoonbianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    team47b wrote:
    Listen to your inner chimp :D
    ahh, eat bananas! wasn't the chimp the one to ignore? :)
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • I used to think of sex, but now I'm old I just think of.....death.
  • Schoie81Schoie81 Posts: 749
    I thought it was just me that did this!! If I'm on a road with a dashed white line down the centre, as I get closer to the brow of the hill I start to count how many 'dashes' are left to pass. If there's more than ten, I usually lose where I am counting to on the road before I get to the top, but from 10(ish) onwards I then count down every one I pass until I'm at the top! Works for me!

    I also tend to aim for specific points as the OP said - splitting the climb down by targeting going past trees, lamposts, gates etc... but counting down takes your mind off the climb(/pain).
    "I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated"
  • cornerblockcornerblock Posts: 3,228
    I used to think of sex, but now I'm old I just think of.....death.

    :) Merry Christmas anyway.
  • team47bteam47b Posts: 6,424
    team47b wrote:
    Listen to your inner chimp :D
    ahh, eat bananas! wasn't the chimp the one to ignore? :)

    It was. :D

    But sometimes you can over think things, allowing things to appear more difficult than they actually are.

    ps I can't eat bananas, fast acting carbs, Durianrider eats my share :roll:
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • slowbikeslowbike Posts: 8,490
    In the summer I'm normally gasping for a drink - so I tell myself that I have to get to a certain place then I can have a drink ... totally daft, but it keeps me going ... :)
  • bianchimoonbianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    team47b wrote:
    team47b wrote:
    Listen to your inner chimp :D
    ahh, eat bananas! wasn't the chimp the one to ignore? :)
    Durianrider eats my share :roll:
    ahh the one man banana marketing board :)
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • MattC59MattC59 Posts: 5,433
    Do you remember the story "The Little Engine" from when you were little ?............... "I think I can, I know I can, I think I can, I know I can........"

    Repeat until you reach the top !

    Like counting, it takes your mind off things, but is a little more motivating :D
    Science adjusts it’s beliefs based on what’s observed.
    Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved
  • bianchimoonbianchimoon Posts: 3,942
    MattC59 wrote:
    Do you remember the story "The Little Engine" from when you were little ?............... "I think I can, I know I can, I think I can, I know I can........"

    Repeat until you reach the top !

    Like counting, it takes your mind off things, but is a little more motivating :D
    :D
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9xO98kcBU
    All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....
  • fix eye about 2m in front and have a drum beat in your head in time with your legs.
  • I try to focus on my breathing and try to keep it slow and deep.
  • On Alpine climbs I measure them in the si unit of 'haytors' (335m), so even Mont Ventoux is only 5h. Each haytor takes me about 20 minutes on an average Alpine climb, so it's easy to work out how long to the top.
  • Kieran_BurnsKieran_Burns Posts: 10,052
    I try to focus on my breathing and try to keep it slow and deep.


    I focus on my breathing and staying away from the light... the voices of my ancestors can be off-putting though.
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  • A....Personally on really long climbs I count to keep a rhythm or look at points in the road ahead to aim for, but could do with some new ideas? :idea:

    When climbing the Port De Bales my girlfriend hummed just keep swimming from 'Finding Nemo'; worked a treat and by the end of the tour nearly all were doing it :lol:

    Paul Smith
  • pinnopinno Posts: 39,184
    I like hills. I hate flats. I always say to myself "I wish this hill was longer or better still, an alpine climb".

    (I hate hills when i am unfit)
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    W - (still at Atlantic boulevard). Neill broke his collarbone.

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  • DavidJBDavidJB Posts: 2,019
    Dunno just keep turning the pedals, it has to end at some point and the harder you pedal the faster the pain ends.
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,936
    When climbing count the half turns of the cranks 1, 2, 3 and on the 3rd push a bit harder.
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