Genesis Volare 853

xcMuttley

dwanes wrote:

What is the offset/layback on your seatpost? The saddle looks quite far back.
If you are short in the legs it maybe worth checking your knee position.

Same again, no adjustments had been made to fit at the point of taking the picture Everything looks a bit off because it is!!

xcMuttley

Annoyingly it is still yet to have its maiden voyage... Blame the lecturers and their deadline dates lol. Thought i would get some more pictures on to show off its beauty before it gets dirty! (And winterized)
And before anyone asks (Again) The saddle and stem haven't been setup correctly yet as im yet to get on the damn thing whilst in riding gear!!!
Lastly, it is on top of some cupboards. We are re-decorating, I promise...

mrbrightside

I set my bikes up at home, for sure it would be impossible to do this on a ride and little point in making base settings after the ride.

Check BB C- to top of the saddle and knee over spindle can all easily be done at home during the build stage.

I'd like to proved wrong but can't help feel that there is something wrong in the frame/layback post/ stem combo. It's a tricky business and hard to get right, especially first time and with new frames etc.

xcMuttley

MrBrightside wrote:

I set my bikes up at home, for sure it would be impossible to do this on a ride and little point in making base settings after the ride.

Check BB C- to top of the saddle and knee over spindle can all easily be done at home during the build stage.

I'd like to proved wrong but can't help feel that there is something wrong in the frame/layback post/ stem combo. It's a tricky business and hard to get right, especially first time and with new frames etc.

Trust me i know all this! I simply havnt had any time since i first put it together! The stem is too long and is being replaced! The saddle isnt adjusted yet either. No point in setting it up when im in jeans and t-shirt really lol

xcMuttley

dwanes wrote:

What is the offset/layback on your seatpost?

It has 16mm layback, although it does look more due to the 'kink' design

FransJacques

MrBrightside wrote:

I set my bikes up at home, for sure it would be impossible to do this on a ride and little point in making base settings after the ride..

Exactly, the act of putting a foot down and getting out a multi tool mid-ride to tweak a saddle height or angle has never been done, everybody knows that.

napoleond

FransJacques wrote:

MrBrightside wrote:

I set my bikes up at home, for sure it would be impossible to do this on a ride and little point in making base settings after the ride..

Exactly, the act of putting a foot down and getting out a multi tool mid-ride to tweak a saddle height or angle has never been done, everybody knows that.

smidsy

xcMuttley wrote:

dwanes wrote:

What is the offset/layback on your seatpost?

It has 16mm layback, although it does look more due to the 'kink' design

Odd that you have a layback post and then put the saddle all the way to the back of the rails - an inline post would achieve the same result (you could then clamp the saddle mid rail) and look better.

styxd

smidsy wrote:

xcMuttley wrote:

dwanes wrote:

What is the offset/layback on your seatpost?

It has 16mm layback, although it does look more due to the 'kink' design

Odd that you have a layback post and then put the saddle all the way to the back of the rails - an inline post would achieve the same result (you could then clamp the saddle mid rail) and look better.

Odd that you have failed to read what he's repeated throughout this thread - It has not been set up properly yet!!!

But honestly, I think you've buggered it up with that saddle and the bar tape, black would have been perfect. You need to get a thomson X2 stem on there aswell.

smidsy

styxd wrote:

Odd that you have failed to read what he's repeated throughout this thread - It has not been set up properly yet!!!

Oh I read it well enough I just do not believe it to be the case.
If you are going to clamp a saddle to a post (quickly just so it is there) you instinctively put it somewhere vaguely central.

Anway let us see the end result before we slag it off totally

xcMuttley

styxd wrote:

smidsy wrote:

xcMuttley wrote:

dwanes wrote:

What is the offset/layback on your seatpost?

It has 16mm layback, although it does look more due to the 'kink' design

Odd that you have a layback post and then put the saddle all the way to the back of the rails - an inline post would achieve the same result (you could then clamp the saddle mid rail) and look better.

Odd that you have failed to read what he's repeated throughout this thread - It has not been set up properly yet!!!

But honestly, I think you've buggered it up with that saddle and the bar tape, black would have been perfect. You need to get a thomson X2 stem on there aswell.

Thank you! Someone has finally got the point haha! I did think about black, but a) Cycling club colour is green b) i like my bike to stand out a bit, hate this stealth black trend
As for the thomson stem, it may well be changed for one when ive decided on the correct stem length Thomson or ritchey?

xcMuttley

smidsy wrote:

styxd wrote:

Odd that you have failed to read what he's repeated throughout this thread - It has not been set up properly yet!!!

Oh I read it well enough I just do not believe it to be the case.
If you are going to clamp a saddle to a post (quickly just so it is there) you instinctively put it somewhere vaguely central.

Anway let us see the end result before we slag it off totally

I was in quite a rush and simply wanted to see what it looked like! I didnt see the point in clamping it in any particular place as i knew it was going to be adjusted as soon as i sat on it.
The next picture it will be set up correctly... I promise

smidsy

xcMuttley wrote:

As for the thomson stem, it may well be changed for one when ive decided on the correct stem length Thomson or ritchey?

Should match your Stem - Ritchey then.

smidsy

xcMuttley wrote:

was in quite a rush and simply wanted to see what it looked like!

Pants is the answer

xcMuttley

smidsy wrote:

xcMuttley wrote:

was in quite a rush and simply wanted to see what it looked like!

Pants is the answer

Haha fine

maxlite

Great frame and colour, though I'm not a fan of Thomson Elite Layback posts even on mtb's

Paul 8v

Looking good

matt_n-2

Not feeling the tape, post, saddle or wheel decals but nice to see some steel.

Bordersroadie

xcMuttley wrote:

Thomson or ritchey?

Thomson. Beautiful engineering objects of desire and functionality.

The bike looks great, nice to see a skinny tubed steel bike on here instead of yet another ugly carbon same old same old.

xcMuttley

Managed to get 100+miles out on the bike last weekend after i fitted the shorter stem and training wheels. It feels amazing, comfy in the saddle yet feels responsive when out of it! Apart from a couple of punctures over the weekend to dampen the fun it is simply brilliant! I will give a proper ride review when i have some proper riding(and racing) done! Now i have a bit more time in the week i guarantee it will be getting constant use

xcMuttley

Don't you just love British weather? Nice ride out nevertheless, was soon cleaned after taking these photos though

xcMuttley

Just a quick update!
The ride is simply beautiful, i have covered more miles and put more training in than i would have imagined simply because i love being out on this bike! Ive raced only twice so far, first race i managed 9th place after trying to bridge a break on the last lap and the second race i very annoyingly hurt my knee but still managed to set my new PR and finished with the group on the york sport circuit.

I love the amount of looks the bike gets, especially from people who swear by the black stuff
Its a lot more responsive than i could have imagined whilst sprinting too, acceleration feels like a carbon bike with a MASSIVE BB rather than "skinny" steel.
Will be posting some more pics soon as the stem is being switched out, i have fitted new pedals and a few other little bits and bobs will be changed

On another note, even after saying how lovely the feel of the supacaz bartape was, its crap... The green part is already wearing away.

Doris Day

Very pretty bike could you tell me what size saddle you have and where you got it please.

xcMuttley

Thanks!
I bought the saddle from ribble
W:145mm L:280mm
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... hagsadd207

k-dog

Still happy? I've been offered a good deal on one of these and it's tempting. The new one is coming soon (but basically the same, just a different colour) so they're clearing then out.

It's a little longer and lower than what I have just now but I do like the look of it.

matt-h

Any links to the deals? I quite fancy one

Matt

tim_wand

Paul Milnes cycles in Bradford.

Various Options. Complete builds with Enve 2 fork about £1150

or Complete builds with the Genesis carbon fork for just over £1k.

I was looking at Frame and Fork (Enve2) at £649 and doing my own build.

chilipapa

Just ordered the frame and fork option. I didn't race this year so sold my carbon race frame, but kept the parts. Build should go something like this;
SRAM Force groupset with standard.
Giant PSLR1 scandium tubeless wheelset, sub 1500g with Veloflex masters and 11/23 cassette. (D T Swiss wheels)
Deda Superzero carbon post. Superzero bars and stem.
New generation Flite.
LOOK Keos.
KMC XL chain and finally cinelli tape.

I have all of the above, so will need headset, seatclamp, superlight tubes and GXP to BB86 bottom bracket.

I only race in the over 55's in LVRC, so it's part pleasure, you just can't love a super efficient wonderfully technical carbon bike can you?

chilipapa

£600 plus for a race built 853 frame and Enve forks is bloody good I reckon.

Big_Ring_Rider

I like the Volare, a lot, cracking value as a frameset only