Which wheels: Crank Brothers Cobalt 2 or Hope Pro2 SP Flow

poah

cooldad wrote:

The silly spokes - try finding replacements quickly. Or even slowly.

The odd rims to fit the silly spokes, which have bits added to hold the silly spokes (most rims have bits taken away, ie. holes.)

Issues with freehubs.

The grade of cheese they're made from.

buy any other wheel that doesn't have J-spokes and you can have a problem too

they don't have any issues with freehubs anymore

no idea about the cheese they are made from but I've never heard of the rims getting beggared. however rims will get fubard depending on the abuse they get - I can't see a stans crest lasting long on a downhill bike can you.

poah

cooldad wrote:

POAH wrote:

Chunkers1980 wrote:

More fool you then

why, point out the bits that are an issue

You might have missed the really subtle hints in the article.


ps they were not really subtle.

no hints in the article - some moaning about them being different from the year before and different from other wheels. clearly you can't point out any parts that would be of worry

The Rookie

What, like the almost complete lack of availability of replacement parts leaving your bike U/S while the bits come on the slow boat via the Cape (or equivalent there of)

When I split out a Mavic straight pull spoke wheel I got a silly amount for the spokes as people were willing to pay lots to have some spares at non shop prices.........

rockmonkeysc

Chunkers1980 wrote:

Even if that is the case, they are cheap, replaceable parts

True and they replace the freehub and axle under warranty but then you can't ride for 7-10 days while you send back the old parts and wait for them to check them and post out replacements.

cooldad

POAH wrote:

cooldad wrote:

POAH wrote:

Chunkers1980 wrote:

More fool you then

why, point out the bits that are an issue

You might have missed the really subtle hints in the article.


ps they were not really subtle.

no hints in the article - some moaning about them being different from the year before and different from other wheels. clearly you can't point out any parts that would be of worry

You did work out that the whole article was a pisstake, didn't you? But unfortunately also also quite true. I would say non compatibility of parts, and a serious problem to get bits if you need them is an issue.
Hence why they're always on sale.

poah

hope hoops are always on sale too

njee20

Not to the same extent, they're often discounted by the big retailers, but not big sale events with 50% discounts.

Your Crest example is just stupid, what's the relevance of that?

poah

njee20 wrote:

Your Crest example is just stupid, what's the relevance of that?

maybe you should re-read it

Chunkers1980

I have and you're suggesting things get buggered more easily when used for unintended purposes. No shite Sherlock.

poah

Chunkers1980 wrote:

I have and you're suggesting things get buggered more easily when used for unintended purposes. No shite Sherlock.

then why ask about it if you knew what I ment :roll:

Chunkers1980

I didn't.

So you actually made no point with that comment, let me roll my eyes at you

rockmonkeysc

POAH wrote:

no idea about the cheese they are made from but I've never heard of the rims getting beggared. however rims will get fubard depending on the abuse they get - I can't see a stans crest lasting long on a downhill bike can you.

What sort of idiot is going to fit Crests to a downhill bike?
I'm no fan of Flows for downhill but the advantage with normal wheel builds is if you find that you dont like the rim then once it's dead you can get the wheel rebuilt with the rim of your choice. Try doing that with Crank Bros wheels.
My DH rear wheel is on it's third rim now and not the same model of rim it started with. Costs me £50 for a rim plus £28 for the build plus 50 pence per spoke if needed.

poah

RockmonkeySC wrote:

POAH wrote:

no idea about the cheese they are made from but I've never heard of the rims getting beggared. however rims will get fubard depending on the abuse they get - I can't see a stans crest lasting long on a downhill bike can you.

What sort of idiot is going to fit Crests to a downhill bike?
I'm no fan of Flows for downhill but the advantage with normal wheel builds is if you find that you dont like the rim then once it's dead you can get the wheel rebuilt with the rim of your choice. Try doing that with Crank Bros wheels.
My DH rear wheel is on it's third rim now and not the same model of rim it started with. Costs me £50 for a rim plus £28 for the build plus 50 pence per spoke if needed.

I'm not saying its not easier to build a normal J-spoke wheel over a SP hope or a CB cobalt wheel like the OP is interested in but if the OP is not riding the type of terrain that you is it likely they won't want a XC wheel. ride a XC wheel like the cobalt 2 (or any other XC rim) on harsh runs you are going to break it so it would not be the ideal wheel to get. like wise getting a SP hope2 is probably not a wise investment either if you are likely to ding the wheel.

Too categorically say its a shit wheel without ever owning one is the issue I have. FWIW I would run a cobalt wheel with no issue

poah

Chunkers1980 wrote:

I didn't.

So you actually made no point with that comment, let me roll my eyes at you

there is no point trying to discuss the matter if you can't grasp simple concepts

Dick Scruttock

Crank Brothers wheels blow goats. The end.

njee20

like wise getting a SP hope2 is probably not a wise investment either if you are likely to ding the wheel.

Surely that depends on the rim though... The Flow is very appropriate. I'd not use CB wheels in a hurry. At all.

rockmonkeysc

Rather than arguing against the reasons for not buying Crank Brothers wheels can you give a good reason to buy them over the alternatives?

Chunkers1980

Think we will conclude that as a no then.

Woody80

Chunkers1980 wrote:

Think we will conclude that as a no then.

That's because there isn't a logical argument! Even though as mentioned, I've got a set of Iodine 3s as they came with my Strive. I love them but wouldn't have forked out the cash for them over an alternative. Particularly when they command a premium. I love the look and wanted a set for my Spicy previously but didn't ever actually do it.