After two effing punctures, need a different pump.

Siarm

Was out earlier today, think the first puncture was from some glass, I was 3/4ft away from most of it but to much of a coincidence for it not to have been from that.
So checked inside the tyre around were the puncture was, couldn't see nowt. So fitted new tube and pumped it up , fitted tyre etc, off I went... 5 mins later another puncture. ffs so this time I had to repair the tube and gave the inside of the tyre a really good shake out/look to make sure nothing was inside.
Can only guess as it's happened to me before, that a bit of grit/small stone had found it's way inside the tyre even if I did look before fitting the tube the first time.

The pump I have is a Lezyne pressure drive and it's bloody useless. Sure it's well made blah blah but 5 mins of pumping away and that's just to around 30 psi, would take you an hour for a roadie.

So wanna get 1 a different pump and 2 Co2.


So what you lot use?

cooldad

Any small pump will take that long, and 30psi is generally plenty.

Siarm

Well it was around 30psi the first time I pumped it up, and less the second as it was doing my head in.

Got plenty of room in the mule so can get something bigger.

The reason I got that was because of it's size, and that it fitted in the saddle bag when I used one.

The Northern Monkey

get one that inflates when you pump up and down, takes half the time

shindig

Convert to tubless. No punctures. Much better.

Siarm

The Northern Monkey wrote:

get one that inflates when you pump up and down, takes half the time

Smart arse.

shindig wrote:

Convert to tubless. No punctures. Much better.

Yer have thought about this before tbh, already have tubeless ready rims and tyres so should do it.
Although there is now a 2mm hole in the tyre, would that seal?

Chunkers1980

Probably not, so wouldn't actually solve much

jimothy78

shindig wrote:

Convert to tubless. Messier punctures.

FTFY

The Rookie

Any compact pump will not shift as much air as a full size or track pump, so decide what size you want to carry.

Seems unfair to blame the pump that you accept was OK the first time for the fact you didn't find the cause and had a second puncture!

The Northern Monkey

Could get a c02 pump?

cooldad

Unless you carry a few cartridges, two punctures will be a disaster with just CO2.

I don't see the problem with a few minutes of pumping though.

paul.skibum

I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive (this: http://www.lezyne.com/en/products/hand-pumps/high-pressure#!pressure-drive) and I was sceptical about it when I got it - small, expensive, all looks no use kind of thing but I needed one for a ride having had my last half inched and couldnt be arsed to go to another bike shop so got it - its been fine - takes no time to pump up a mtb tyre in my opinion - cant be arsed with CO2 - waste of money.

antfly

The pressure drive is a perfectly good pump and pretty quick on higher pressure road tyres but for lower pressure, high volume tyres you would be better of with the alloy drive.

Lewis A

Topeak mountain morph is good.

Mojo_666

Lewis A wrote:

Topeak mountain morph is good.

Great pump however I found a negative with it, due it's size when loaded into a camel back (mule and hawg) the top of the pump is pretty close to the camel back shell, this for me has resulted (when crashing) with the camel back trapped between hard pump body and the hard rock trail causing a hole to appear on the camelback near the zip...happended twice now i didn't clock the first time as to the cause of the hole.

Giraffoto

Specialized Airtool, on a neat little holder that sits beside the bottle cage. It cleverly shifts the air on both strokes of the handle, which I'm guessing is what an earlier contributor was talking about rather than being unhelpful

Siarm

The Rookie wrote:

Any compact pump will not shift as much air as a full size or track pump, so decide what size you want to carry.

Seems unfair to blame the pump that you accept was OK the first time for the fact you didn't find the cause and had a second puncture!

Thanks.
Pump is/was a PITA both times, if it was ok then I wouldn't have made the thread.

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Could get a c02 pump?

Yer mentioned that in my OP, is something that I would like to get and also carry a pump just in case.
With it getting darker and colder now, I really don't wanna be fart arsing around in the dark/cold, the quicker I can get it sorted and carry on the better.

cooldad wrote:

Unless you carry a few cartridges, two punctures will be a disaster with just CO2.

I don't see the problem with a few minutes of pumping though.

Yer I would carry a couple of cartridges anyway, so no biggy.

Few mins would be fine yer, but 5+ mins to get to around 30psi I don't wanna be doing, second time I gave up trying to get to around 30psi so must of had 25 or just under.

paul.skibum wrote:

I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive (this: http://www.lezyne.com/en/products/hand-pumps/high-pressure#!pressure-drive) and I was sceptical about it when I got it - small, expensive, all looks no use kind of thing but I needed one for a ride having had my last half inched and couldnt be arsed to go to another bike shop so got it - its been fine - takes no time to pump up a mtb tyre in my opinion - cant be arsed with CO2 - waste of money.

That's the one I have, either mine is faulty as it really doesn't pump out much air at all, or maybe you have the medium size, think they do small and medium? And pretty sure mine is small.
So maybe even just getting a bigger one would be better.

antfly wrote:

The pressure drive is a perfectly good pump and pretty quick on higher pressure road tyres but for lower pressure, high volume tyres you would be better of with the alloy drive.

Oh, thanks for that. Can take it then that the alloy drive pumps out more air/volume of air than the pressure drive?

Lewis A wrote:

Topeak mountain morph is good.

Cheers for that, think I looked at that one before, but decided I didn't want it frame mounted and it was far to big to go inside a saddle bag, but now have a mule so would be quite good I think.

Giraffoto wrote:

Specialized Airtool, on a neat little holder that sits beside the bottle cage. It cleverly shifts the air on both strokes of the handle, which I'm guessing is what an earlier contributor was talking about rather than being unhelpful

Thanks, will have a look at that on also, sounds good that it pumps air on both strokes.
Won't ask who you were referring to though.

Chunkers1980

This all sounds like a load of hot air to me.

My shock pump would pump my nobblies up to 30 psi in 5 mins, so I suggest you either had a punncture or your pump is buggered like you say.

Siarm

Chunkers1980 wrote:

This all sounds like a load of hot air to me.

My shock pump would pump my nobblies up to 30 psi in 5 mins, so I suggest you either had a punncture or your pump is buggered like you say.

Believe what you like mate, really not fussed.

Will dig out old pump and see how much air that pumps out per stroke.

paul.skibum

Siarm wrote:

paul.skibum wrote:

I have a Lezyne Pressure Drive (this: http://www.lezyne.com/en/products/hand-pumps/high-pressure#!pressure-drive) and I was sceptical about it when I got it - small, expensive, all looks no use kind of thing but I needed one for a ride having had my last half inched and couldnt be arsed to go to another bike shop so got it - its been fine - takes no time to pump up a mtb tyre in my opinion - cant be arsed with CO2 - waste of money.

That's the one I have, either mine is faulty as it really doesn't pump out much air at all, or maybe you have the medium size, think they do small and medium? And pretty sure mine is small.
So maybe even just getting a bigger one would be better.

I believe they do a road and mtb one (which maybe what you mean by small and medium) - I know I bought the mtb one and I reckon I have my tyres inflated in under 100 strokes of the pump which to me is reasonable given that that is about 2 minutes - I usually find the more time consuming part of changing a tube is checking the tube/tyre for causes and reseating the tyre to be honest.

You could try tubeless as an option.

flywheel88

Topeak Mountain Morph.

mamba80

the leyzine HV alloy, a mini road pump on a mtb tire will always takes ages.