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Stefan van Dijk / 8 year ban

iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,784
edited December 2013 in Pro race
For ozone therapy shenanigans

2nd offence.

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/sportwereld/cn ... gn=seeding
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  • What a waste of time that is.
  • deejaydeejay Posts: 3,138
    What a waste of time that is.
    Will this help a little. ??
    With a needle

    Ozone therapy has been around since the eighties . Blood is drained , enriched with ozone and injected again . Professor Peter Van Eenoo , head of the dopinglab Ghent : " Ozone therapy is not explicitly on the doping list . But if you take his blood and inject again , it may fall under a blood transfusion . And that is forbidden . Moreover, a cyclist to comply with the no - needle policy of the UCI . "And Van Dijk admits there was a needle is involved. "Using a needle and a hose in my vein blood was drawn off ."
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  • ThomThomThomThom Posts: 3,574
    edited November 2013
    That's one ugly fella'.
  • is this the same thing Kittel had done?
  • rayjayrayjay Posts: 1,384
    Kittel took a lie detector test and passed.

    Who knows?
  • rayjay wrote:
    Kittel took a lie detector test and passed.

    Who knows?

    Erm, no. It was a completely different treatment - UV light treatment on small amounts of blood withdrawn. Completely ineffective quack procedure.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 15,915
    Erm, no. It was a completely different treatment - UV light treatment on small amounts of blood withdrawn. Completely ineffective quack procedure.
    Ozone therapy is not explicitly on the doping list . But if you take his blood and inject again , it may fall under a blood transfusion . And that is forbidden

    Sorry. What difference does it make what is done to the blood when it's withdraw.

    Is it a quantity issue?
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  • ThomThomThomThom Posts: 3,574
    Erm, no. It was a completely different treatment - UV light treatment on small amounts of blood withdrawn. Completely ineffective quack procedure.
    Ozone therapy is not explicitly on the doping list . But if you take his blood and inject again , it may fall under a blood transfusion . And that is forbidden

    Sorry. What difference does it make what is done to the blood when it's withdraw.

    Is it a quantity issue?

    http://inrng.com/2012/01/blood-irradiation-explained/
  • afx237viafx237vi Posts: 12,630
    ThomThom wrote:
    That's one ugly fella'.

    That's without mentioning the awful Cockney accent.
  • Mad_MalxMad_Malx Posts: 4,119
    Erm, no. It was a completely different treatment - UV light treatment on small amounts of blood withdrawn. Completely ineffective quack procedure.
    Ozone therapy is not explicitly on the doping list . But if you take his blood and inject again , it may fall under a blood transfusion . And that is forbidden

    Sorry. What difference does it make what is done to the blood when it's withdraw.

    Is it a quantity issue?

    My guess is that taking blood out and doing just about anything to it (UV, ozone or whatever) will switch on stress response genes. However, this will only really be in the cells taken out, which is only going to be about 5% of the body's blood. You might get a bit of a knock-on effect on the rest of the body on reinfusion. Since blood cells don't make much in the way of EPO, steroids or growth hormone, it really is pretty unlikely that either procedure (IF that's all that they are doing) will have any significant physiological benefit, but the psychological advantage (I'm having this great new supplement...) may make a difference to some.
  • ProssPross Posts: 25,484
    afx237vi wrote:
    ThomThom wrote:
    That's one ugly fella'.

    That's without mentioning the awful Cockney accent.

    Damn, beaten to it. Was going to say that should have got life!
  • deejay wrote:
    What a waste of time that is.
    Will this help a little. ??
    With a needle

    Ozone therapy has been around since the eighties . Blood is drained , enriched with ozone and injected again . Professor Peter Van Eenoo , head of the dopinglab Ghent : " Ozone therapy is not explicitly on the doping list . But if you take his blood and inject again , it may fall under a blood transfusion . And that is forbidden . Moreover, a cyclist to comply with the no - needle policy of the UCI . "And Van Dijk admits there was a needle is involved. "Using a needle and a hose in my vein blood was drawn off ."
    I meant the procedure he got banned for rather than the link, sorry.
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