what padlock and chain is good for my bike?

cass_1979

hi everyone, joined up to ask for some advice about padlocks or D locks with a chain or no chain, just want to ask if i was keeping my bike at the Sainsburys bike stands for most of the day what lock would be suitable? i see this ( http://abuspadlocksonline.co.uk/abus-pa ... 100cm.html ) what i was thinking to hook this threw the bike stand, front wheel and bike frame and this for the back wheel to the bike frame http://abuspadlocksonline.co.uk/abus-pa ... acket.html my bike is old but it was expensive and is still in mint condition and it has fast release latches all over it so i will take the seat of when i go to work, douse this sound right or will this be a waist of my money?

cooldad

Bye bye bike.

Uli

cooldad wrote:

Bye bye bike.

Why? If the lock/ cable is really heavy and properly fixed the frame may be still there on his return. And drive train if it is old, dirty and nobody wants it.

If you bike gets stolen it only depends on how badly someone wants it. And if you leave fairly decent bike in front of supermarket it will be wanted sooner than later.

bennett_346

The cable lock i wouldn't frankly trust against an 8 year old, the D lock is a bit better but as said, bye-bye bicycle if you're planning on leaving it locked with that for "most of the day".

Get a good insurance policy (home contents cover sometimes does it).

cooldad

You can get a POS bike off Ebay for the price of a decent lock.
Mine, after selling some of the bits, and fitting some from my stash, cost me about nothing.
Rides great but looks nasty - anyone who wants to steal it needs it more than I do.

bennett_346

cooldad wrote:

You can get a POS bike off Ebay for the price of a decent lock.
Mine, after selling some of the bits, and fitting some from my stash, cost me about nothing.
Rides great but looks nasty - anyone who wants to steal it needs it more than I do.

I did this but ended up gradually buying new bits for it and now it's probably past the point of "i don't care if it's stolen". I'm my own worst enema.

Colinthecop

I just wouldn't leave my bike outdoors, locked or otherwise. It's a false economy.

If I can't see it, I don't leave it unattended.

Do you work in Sainsburys....? If so, there must surely be somewhere indoors to leave it which has to be a bit better.

Wooliferkins

One of these plus one of these a set of these and maybe one of these. Presuming you've something secure to lock it to.

edhornby

even a cheap bike needs a good lock

cheap bike that has been nicked requires a taxi/bus ride home, cost of transport until you replace it and another 100quid for the replacement of the bike and 50quid for a replacement lock

get a good quality kryptonike or abus with as short a D size as you can get away with (Dlocks work best with no gaps)

chrisw333

This site does good strong chain locks, that will take some real cutting and superior to D locks. They are heavy and as others have said, it will probably go in the end.
http://securityforbikes.com/security-ch ... wwodLToA_A

cass_1979

i didn't even know anybody had replied till i worked out how to use this forum,, i might have to buy a cheap bike then,, as i have herd, if they want the bike, they will get it. I don't want to loose it so an old bike with the same locks i said before i think will be my choice. thanks you guys for the help.

swod1

the new york kyptonite d locks are decent and will take some cutting through.

As the front of the shop will be busy with people around a couple of strong locks should deter any thieves as they would take too long to break.

I would say ask if you can put it in the warehouse bit at the back and still lock it even in there.

The Rookie

Just get a town hack bike, mine is an old Gary Fisher Piranha, scabby and rusty and I've selected the cmponents carefully to look cheap while doing a half decent job, building it 1x7 with a twist shift makes it look even nastier!

sgtpepper1969

Try an onguard brute,16mm shackle, £22 on eBay,my bike never stays anywhere 2 long & lives in the house

passout

I think your choices are a decent D lock, chain and:

a) crap commuter bike - might be best, get an ugly non-MTB with mudgaurds (less likely to go & will keep you drier too)
b) folding bike that is kept indoor somewhere (if allowed)
c) insurance

Also don't leave lights, pump etc on your bike.

bennett_346

passout wrote:

chain

Nah, they're either so heavy they can't be carrier or if lighter can be cut through in seconds. Just a D lock will do.

The Rookie

I agree, a chain worth using is a leave in place job, it's so heavy to carry you'd have a lighter combo with a BSO and cheaper lock. I use a chain at work for my commuter but it lives at work.
1 Good D-lock (plus a cheaper one if you are using Sheffield stands so they can't twist the bike) and a cable through the wheels is the best you can do. Remembering that some thieves will cut through a frame to steal a bike for the rest of the (unidentifiable) components.

passout

Re the above, I just use my chain & D lock at work too.

Kowalski675

The Rookie wrote:

I agree, a chain worth using is a leave in place job,

If you mean leave it locked in a public place to use when you come back that's a bad idea. Thieves will superglue the lock mechanism, hoping that you might leave the bike unlocked when you come back to your knackered lock. Obviously any sane person wouldn't, but you're still down the cost of a lock.

Lydia-Hines

One wise guy said that all bikes and locks should weigh 50 pounds to be safe. The lighter and more expensive the bike the heavier and more robust the locks.

cooldad

Excellent thread resurrection, but if his bike hasn't been stolen over the past five years he probably doesn't care anymore.