Yorkshire World Tour race

FJS

This is getting better and better. A TdF grand depart in Yorkshire, and now, apparently, plans for an annual World Tour race, from 2015: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/welcome ... ce-in-2015
Brilliant. Although, wasn't there some plan for a WT race in Wales? Just a bit of noise to further boost the attention for Yorkshire anticipating the grand depart, or a serious plan?

Richmond Racer

Dunno but if its serious, this time Verity needs to make sure its costed out properly...and its clear who's picking up the tab

(controversial post there)

deejay

Never mind the ASO.
It's the UCI that need a kick up the rectum to get that confounded Hamburg WT event returned to the Yorkshire Dales.

thefog

It won't happen unless someone sponsors it and pays for it all. Gary Verity talks a lot and then expects everyone else to pick up the tab. TdF is going to be way over budget for all authorities whilst verity's organisation try and make lots of money out of its members and promoting hospitality, presumably to allow him to have 3 week jollies in France in July. WtY did no budgeting for the Tour and are sitting back, acting like they are delivering yet offer nothing. All being done by local authorities and uk sport.

ianwilliams

This would be great but a three day event might be a bit much. Something like the route of the White Rose Classic would be a great one dayer, ideally if you build in the variable weather. Hell, throw in some of the cobbles from the Ronde van Calderdale and it would be a beast for any cyclist...

It is so refreshing to see cycling in the UK acknowledged outside of bloody Box Hill!

I share the concerns about cost but it would be great to see a WT event here. I never saw the Wincanton Classic.

I also don't know how this will fit in with the UCI's established aim of having no events that clash.

rick_chasey

Excellent.

Re the box hill comment - I know you lot get jealous of SW Londoners but it's a beautiful part of the world, good fun to ride, and near a city as populous as Sweden...anyway, the main problems will be funding and finding space in the calendar. The only new race which has worked is strada biancha and that's because it feels like it's been around for 50 years because of the retro thros back.

New races need to instantly feel iconic and memorable (on TV) and the organisation needs to be pretty spot on first time running.

ianwilliams

Rick Chasey wrote:

Re the box hill comment - I know you lot get jealous of SW Londoners but it's a beautiful part of the world, good fun to ride, and near a city as populous as Sweden...

I know, I know - I was only (half) joking! I think it was just a little irritating on the BBC coverage of the Olympic Road Race - they were billing it repeatedly as if it was this dreaded climb, the toughest in the UK type thing.

Not a London thing - I'm sure they would have drummed it up wherever the race had been held. Just nice to see some of the other tough climbs around the UK given some publicity.

deejay

ianwilliams wrote:

It is so refreshing to see cycling in the UK acknowledged outside of bloody Box Hill!

I share the concerns about cost but it would be great to see a WT event here. I never saw the Wincanton Classic.

I also don't know how this will fit in with the UCI's established aim of having no events that clash.

deejay wrote:

It's the UCI that need a kick up the rectum to get that confounded Hamburg WT event returned to the Yorkshire Dales.

Then you didn't see the "Leeds Classic" races when it went over Holme Moss.
The Hamburg Sprint is the one that was run on that same WT date.
GB lost that race because of the popularity of that Cheating, Lying, Fraudulent scumbags Team Deutsche Telekom.

1991
May 26-June 8 = Milk Race
June 21 = Manx International
August 4 = Wincanton Classic...................2013 AUG 25 = Vattenfall Cyclassics
August 6-11 = Kellogs Tour of Britain.........2013 SEP-15 - SEP-22 = Tour of Britain

The Surrey League racing offers some of the best racing on GB without using bloody Box Hill.

ianwilliams

deejay wrote:

Then you didn't see the "Leeds Classic" races when it went over Holme Moss.
The Hamburg Sprint is the one that was run on that same WT date.
The Surrey League racing offers some of the best racing on GB without using bloody Box Hill.

No, I knew about it but never saw it - was just a kid at the time.

Cheers for the recommendation re: Surrey League - will check it out.

mididoctors

Rick Chasey wrote:

Excellent.

Re the box hill comment - I know you lot get jealous of SW Londoners but it's a beautiful part of the world, good fun to ride, and near a city as populous as Sweden...anyway,

its a rubbish area to cycle in


there I have said it

a Uk WT level one dayer should be across the dales or somefink not the downs... yeah I know the roads are better once you push out into sussex proper but.....

t4tomo

Surrey would be OK to ride in if they actually put a surface on the roads. Most of them are just potholes connected with gravel.

mroli

Yorkshire is a pretty big County though - you could make a decent 3 day race there without breaking a sweat and highlighting some nice areas - for example, the three stages could be - a stage round York for sprinters, a day in the North York Moors which could be very lumpy and "hard" (kind of LBL territory?) and then a Leeds to Sheffield day dipping into the Peaks for a Gilbert/EBH/Gerrans kind of day?

cougie

Three days seems a bit much to me. I know they have the terrain - but a 1 dayer would generate almost as much revenue as a 3 dayer. I'd pop over for the day - but probably not 3 days at a stretch.