Dura Ace 7900/9000 crankset photographic comparison

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  • de_sisti
    de_sisti Posts: 1,283
    edited August 2015
    For the non Shimano riders, which is which?

    [Edit: I like the look of the one on the left]
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  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    The current 9000 is on the left and the previous generation 7900 on the right
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    Ok, I can confirm the back plate on the new 105 is indeed plastic. It's bonded, you can see the joint on the outer edge and the lip on the inner edge. A neat job.

    The easy way to tell a plastic is with your tongue. The metal teeth are cold the plastic warm. Also you can clearly see the round spruce marks where it's been cut off from the mould.

    As expected at the price point there is a lot less machining of the teeth profiles.

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  • DKay
    DKay Posts: 1,652
    Interesting. I've never looked closely enough and just assumed the outer ring was all metal. The plastic and metal parts are the same temperature btw. They just conduct heat at different rates. ;)
  • There used to be a video on Youtube of the Dura Ace production line. I think they removed it when all production was moved to Malaysia :([/quote]

    Dura Ace, Ultegra, 105, Tiagra cranks are still 100% made in Japan.
    Dura Ace wheels though are both made in Malaysia and Japan
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    There used to be a video on Youtube of the Dura Ace production line. I think they removed it when all production was moved to Malaysia :(

    Dura Ace, Ultegra, 105, Tiagra cranks are still 100% made in Japan.
    Dura Ace wheels though are both made in Malaysia and Japan[/quote]


    That's good to hear.

    The 105 chainset has 'ME' stamped on it, is that a factory code ? I assumed it stood for Malaysia. The boxes of some of the Shimano XT components for my mountain bike say made in Malaysia.
  • The two letter code shows when a part has been manufactured.
    First letter is the year and second is the month.
    M is 2014
    E is May

    You can find info about that here http://www.vintage-trek.com/component_dates.htm
  • bernithebiker
    bernithebiker Posts: 4,148
    Ok, I can confirm the back plate on the new 105 is indeed plastic. It's bonded, you can see the joint on the outer edge and the lip on the inner edge. A neat job.

    The easy way to tell a plastic is with your tongue. The metal teeth are cold the plastic warm. Also you can clearly see the round spruce marks where it's been cut off from the mould.

    As expected at the price point there is a lot less machining of the teeth profiles.

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    IMG_2015.jpg

    IMG_2017.jpg

    That looks like an absolute nightmare to keep clean........
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    How does the plastic 105 taste compared to the metal ultegra/DA?
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  • DKay
    DKay Posts: 1,652
    That looks like an absolute nightmare to keep clean........

    Not an issue in practice, unless you go muddy cyclo-crossing.
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    How does the plastic 105 taste compared to the metal ultegra/DA?

    Funnily enough they both taste the same because both appear to be painted 8)

    I think the silver version might be difficult to keep clean. The finish on the black one is a course feeling matte, either anodized or some sort of epoxy paint baked on.The paint on the arms is parallel brushed to give a satin finish. Amazing attention to detail given the low price. Hard to believe they make any money on them if they are made in a high cost country like Japan.The complete groupset (including cables) is under £300 at the discounters.


    In case anyone is wondering I don't actually own a pile of cranksets, just borrowed, apart from the Dura Ace 7900 one.

    Something else I noticed looking through the 5800 groupset is the shift levers are plastic.Signs of cost cutting. The 5700 ones are metal. Ultegra are carbon reinforced plastic. The dérailleurs are almost identical to Ultegra though.
  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    Holy thread resurrection Batman... but I thought I'd add this picture of a sectioned 9000 crankset showing the hollow chainrings.
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    I must admit I've lost the will to live after seeing the new 9100 chainset....

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  • That 9100 chainset is fuglier than Ultegra!
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  • adamfo
    adamfo Posts: 763
    edited July 2016
    From what I can make out the 9000 crankset is compatible with the 9100 group set , hence the 9-series designation.
  • Bo Duke
    Bo Duke Posts: 1,058
    I wonder why the crank has to be so wide?
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