Cyclists who smoke

Ben6899

bergen wrote:

Incompatible indeed. I had to quit, it took me a year to gradually switch to e-cigarette and then give up smoking completely. E-cigs are a good way to start a healthy lifestyle. However, it's important to buy a quality vape or cigarette. http://mygadget.us is the store I bought mine so maybe if anyone's trying to quit smoking, it may be useful.

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rick_chasey

meagain

bompington wrote:

Fenix wrote:

meagain wrote:

I smoked fags from age 9 to 63. ........and then shuffle off at 67. What a whizzo idea!"

You are just justifying your addiction to yourself mate.

You probably won't pop your clogs quickly. It might be a long drawn out procedure of years with many stays in hospitals and lots of treatment, lots of money spent on you.

Smoking never appealed to me.

Errr.... check the date on the post... he's probably dead already[/quote]

Sorry to disappoint, but I ain't dead yet! And yes probably partly justifying, but I know all about addiction - I'm an alcoholic, currently totally dry for just over 16 years and battling that takes all my will power (yes, I still want a drink every waking hour) so I take sticking to vaping as a success. After over a year of very little cycling as I looked after my terminally ill wife, slowly getting back. Took Brommie to Shetland recently and putting in 100 miles most weeks - modest I know but I am nearly 71 and obviously less than fully fit. Had it not been for regular constant exercise, mainly cycling, I would indeed have already left the stage (and TBH way political landscape shifting dramatically to the far right here and elsewhere I have no great wish to hold on much longer).

surfercyclist

Well unquestionably it's bad for you to smoke. End of.

However, exercise is good for us so even if you do smoke it's better to exercise than not. I'd be surprised if there were "serious" cyclists who still smoke but you never know. These days they can surely be no-one who isn't aware of the fact that smoking is the worst thing you can do to adversely effect your health. That being said, I'm a non-smoker and always have been(as a kid tried like most do but never took it up). People who are long term smokers often find it REALLY hard to give up, vaping is therefore a safer option if you struggle to give up completely.

So, to state the blindingly obvious : if you don't smoke don't start. If you do smoke give it up.

Whatever you do it's definitely worth keeping fit. However, don't do TOO much as otherwise you'll get AF but that's another story...

mfin

I don't think anyone's opinion on a forum will affect anybody else's decision to smoke or not. There's no point in preaching.

Yes, we know smoking is bad for you, and can directly contribute to your death, but everyone knows that, it's all been said and people have ears and have heard it.

It can be easy for some to come across a bit righteous and holier than thou when it comes to smoking as fitness seems almost the polar opposite to smoking, personally I think happiness and compassion is much more important.

Loads of kids nowadays are getting addicted to vaping without ever touching a cigarette. It seems like a joke, but speak to kids and they'll soon confirm this. People do what they do, not do what they're told by busy bodies.

pinno

What's the stat? 70% of Vapers never smoked fags or summat.

eric_draven

I use to smoke from my mid teens until my mid twenties and i rode my mountain bikes and surf,I used to think it never really bothered me physically to much until I stopped,after 6 months there was a big noticeable difference in my ability to go up hill,I lost my farther when I was 26 to a rare form of bowel cancer he didn't smoke or drink,this was the main reason to make me stop I was going to my upmost not go like that,It took me about 5 months or so to stop completely ,hardest part was for me was going out for a drink and not having a cig to go with it as most of the people I would socialise with still smoked,I loved it when they banned it in pubs as the two didn't go together anymore,when I smell them now I do think to myself why the hell did I do that

mfin

Pinno wrote:

What's the stat? 70% of Vapers never smoked fags or summat.

Well all kids need to hear from friends is "it makes you feel <insert description>" and loads of kids will go do it.

Also people forget if there is ANY element of 'cool' then kids will do it, and with this you have (a) a bit of rebellion, (b) a cool electronic device you get to own and that you can modify and is pretty affordable, (c) you attract attention because of all the clouds of 'cool' smoke. ...it is no wonder kids do it.

It has to become completely uncool for kids not to do it. I have ideas how you could do that, but they are only daft ones, but I am sure they'd work

robert88

mfin wrote:

Pinno wrote:

What's the stat? 70% of Vapers never smoked fags or summat.

Well all kids need to hear from friends is "it makes you feel <insert description>" and loads of kids will go do it.

Also people forget if there is ANY element of 'cool' then kids will do it, and with this you have (a) a bit of rebellion, (b) a cool electronic device you get to own and that you can modify and is pretty affordable, (c) you attract attention because of all the clouds of 'cool' smoke. ...it is no wonder kids do it.

It has to become completely uncool for kids not to do it. I have ideas how you could do that, but they are only daft ones, but I am sure they'd work

Didn't work for me. My friends smoked, incIuding weed, I smoked one fag, thought this is sh1t and never smoked another. Other than the obligatory passive smoking, at work and other places. I was a rebel against the rebels. I did run a bootleg liquor racket at school very successfully. Cider. I'd a dead letter box system using clothes lockers and cydrax bottles.

pinno

Robert88 wrote:

I did run a bootleg liquor racket at school very successfully. Cider. I'd a dead letter box system using clothes lockers and cydrax bottles.

Where did you get the cider from?

mfin

Robert88 wrote:

mfin wrote:

Pinno wrote:

What's the stat? 70% of Vapers never smoked fags or summat.

Well all kids need to hear from friends is "it makes you feel <insert description>" and loads of kids will go do it.

Also people forget if there is ANY element of 'cool' then kids will do it, and with this you have (a) a bit of rebellion, (b) a cool electronic device you get to own and that you can modify and is pretty affordable, (c) you attract attention because of all the clouds of 'cool' smoke. ...it is no wonder kids do it.

It has to become completely uncool for kids not to do it. I have ideas how you could do that, but they are only daft ones, but I am sure they'd work

Didn't work for me. My friends smoked, incIuding weed, I smoked one fag, thought this is sh1t and never smoked another. Other than the obligatory passive smoking, at work and other places. I was a rebel against the rebels. I did run a bootleg liquor racket at school very successfully. Cider. I'd a dead letter box system using clothes lockers and cydrax bottles.

Yeah, I should have said I didn't mean ALL kids

robert88

Pinno wrote:

Robert88 wrote:

I did run a bootleg liquor racket at school very successfully. Cider. I'd a dead letter box system using clothes lockers and cydrax bottles.

Where did you get the cider from?

Probably at an offie. I can still remember when I first bought beer at a pub when at school. Obviously the pub wasn't at the school or I'd have had too much competition.

mouth

Pinno wrote:

What's the stat? 70% of Vapers never smoked fags or summat.

Theres also another stat relating to teenagers and vaping - something like 90% of school aged vapers go on to smoke cigarettes, as opposed to less than 1/3 of non vapers. Thise figures aren't exactly accurate but make the point im trying to proffer.

chris_bass

So you can either read this as vaping is bad because people who would never have smoked now vape some of whom go on to smoke. Then people who would have smoked now vape instead and some of these go on to smoke anyway and some don't.

Not sure what you are trying to say with these stats? Without knowing what they would have done it's hard to read anything into the numbers.

What are overall smoker numbers before and after the rise in vaping is probably a better measure

bompington

meagain wrote:

Sorry to disappoint, but I ain't dead yet! And yes probably partly justifying, but I know all about addiction - I'm an alcoholic, currently totally dry for just over 16 years and battling that takes all my will power (yes, I still want a drink every waking hour) so I take sticking to vaping as a success. After over a year of very little cycling as I looked after my terminally ill wife, slowly getting back. Took Brommie to Shetland recently and putting in 100 miles most weeks - modest I know but I am nearly 71 and obviously less than fully fit. Had it not been for regular constant exercise, mainly cycling, I would indeed have already left the stage (and TBH way political landscape shifting dramatically to the far right here and elsewhere I have no great wish to hold on much longer).

Never happier to be proved a fool :oops:
Sorry to hear about your wife, glad you're still going strong, and all the best with all the struggles of life.

darkhairedlord

other people smoking keeps my pension cost down.

pinno

darkhairedlord wrote:

other people smoking keeps my pension cost down.

You have shares in Phillip Morris? I hear the far eastern market is lucrative.

cycleclinic

Cyclist who smoke while riding, with one iedal stroke they improve there health and to balance that out they toke on a fag. Its a sort of karma to maintain a general state if unhealthiness.

chris_bass

darkhairedlord wrote:

other people smoking keeps my pension cost down.

Not true!

They get higher pension payments because they are likely to die sooner!

mugensi

I smoked from my later teens to my mid 30’s. Been off them now since 2007 and absolutely detest the smell of them. My mate I cycle with used to smoke but gave them up a few years ago. He’d always light up at the coffee stop and then spend the first 5-10 minutes of the cycle home coughing his lungs up. He eventually gave them up but recently has started smoking cigars. He keeps a cigar (hamlet I think) in his tool bottle and lights it up on the coffee stop.

robert88

thecycleclinic wrote:

Cyclist who smoke while riding, with one iedal stroke they improve there health and to balance that out they toke on a fag. Its a sort of karma to maintain a general state if unhealthiness.

When out on the road cycling with max effort with hardly any cars, I am sometimes passed by a bunch of cars all at once. It's noticeable that I suddenly need to breathe harder to get the same oxygen as they go by. I guess smoking cyclists have to breathe harder than I do anyway.

pinno

Robert88 wrote:

thecycleclinic wrote:

Cyclist who smoke while riding, with one iedal stroke they improve there health and to balance that out they toke on a fag. Its a sort of karma to maintain a general state if unhealthiness.

When out on the road cycling with max effort with hardly any cars, I am sometimes passed by a bunch of cars all at once. It's noticeable that I suddenly need to breathe harder to get the same oxygen as they go by. I guess smoking cyclists have to breathe harder than I do anyway.

There was a study of air quality during a TT in Cambridgeshire that was well frequented. They found that the air quality improved during the TT. The conclusion; the cyclists were acting as biological filters.

mfin

So by the same logic, the air quality would improve at lunchtimes when more people were out on the streets?

Are you absolutely sure the conclusion was that cyclists were acting as filters? One cyclist passing every minute improves air quality, doesn't sound right does it? There's a lot of air and one cyclist a minute is breathing in and out very little of it.

Correlation is not necessarily causation.

Could it not be less cars, cars going slower etc etc, surely it is way way more likely. Unless it was a joke?

pinno

mfin wrote:

So by the same logic, the air quality would improve at lunchtimes when more people were out on the streets?

Are you absolutely sure the conclusion was that cyclists were acting as filters? One cyclist passing every minute improves air quality, doesn't sound right does it? There's a lot of air and one cyclist a minute is breathing in and out very little of it.

Correlation is not necessarily causation.

Could it not be less cars, cars going slower etc etc, surely it is way way more likely. Unless it was a joke?

I am only recalling an article from the Comic in the early 00's. You can draw any conclusion you like.

Cargobike

Pfft.....
My smoking has gone through the roof during Covid.
However, I've lost over 100lbs in weight.
And, there's less traffic on the roads, clogging up my lungs with their sh*tty exhaust fumes and cr*p from their tyres.
Still don't wear a helmet when I cycle either, even though I've bought one.

Charlie_Croker

cornerblock said:

He probably found a club that suited him.

What's that phrase - déja vu

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