Ribble. Frame v Groupset. Help!!!!!!

Jcjblackwood
Jcjblackwood Posts: 24
edited October 2013 in Road buying advice
I've been riding a Specialized Tricross for the past year and now want to go for a full- on road bike. My budget is < £1000. I've narrowed my search to Ribble bikes and am looking at two: the Sportive 7005 with alloy frame / Tiagra groupset (£599) and the Sportive Bianco with carbon frame / Sora 3500 groupset (£879). The difference in price isn't a driving factor, but i'd be interested in any views on the frame / groupset tradeoffs. For background, I've signed up for my first Sportive next year, the 150k Dragon ride, and want a decent bike for that (hopefully the first of many). Thanks - a grateful beginner!!!!!!

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  • diamonddog
    diamonddog Posts: 3,426
    Nothing wrong with either frame but many people buy alu then want carbon, also carbon soaks up the road vibrations slightly better than alu. If you can, get the carbon frame with Tiagra or higher, just my opinion but others may differ.
  • Tiagra adds £95. Could anyone explain why Tiagra is worth £95 more than the Sora?
  • Oops. Btw, thanks Diamonddog :)
  • Bookwyse
    Bookwyse Posts: 245
    My advice would be to go with the best frame you can afford. I did with the R872 and SORA but there is now no SORA left as I have upgraded it all to Ultegra over the last twelve months. You can pick up bits of groupsets at good prices if you look around and it can work out cheaper.
  • Mm, thanks Bookwyse. Did you do the upgrade yourself? I don't mind a little fettling, but how hard is is to change all the components? Also, is it possible to change them out bit by bit or do you need to do it all at once?
  • My new Ribble bike, which is also a Sportive 7005 is being delivered next week. I have gone for the Campagnolo Veloce groupset in black along with Deda bars and stem and decent Continental Ultra Sport tyres on Rodi Airline EVO rims (the Campag Khamsims which were my first choice were unfortunately out of stock :( ). This has cost me £814. Personally i cant see the point of paying out for a full fat carbon frame then scrimping on the groupset. For me, if you go carbon then the minimum Shimano groupset i would put on it is the 105. But then that would take you way over your budget. As its been said before though, you could upgrade various parts on it has and when your finances can afford it.
    Ribble Ultralite Racing 7005, Campagnolo Veloce groupset, Campagnolo Khamsin G3 wheel set
  • Bookwyse
    Bookwyse Posts: 245
    Mm, thanks Bookwyse. Did you do the upgrade yourself? I don't mind a little fettling, but how hard is is to change all the components? Also, is it possible to change them out bit by bit or do you need to do it all at once?

    Hi, Did all of the work myself and its perfectly possible to do it bit by bit as long as you stick with the ten speed stuff. The thing to do is just keep looking out for the bargains on both ebay and places like this. This works really well if your getting the bike now as you can use it through the winter and then put the upgraded bits on the frame in the spring in readiness for the summer and it will feel like a new bike.
  • I have a carbon Sportive Bianco with 105 Groupset, and have been really pleased with it.

    Having just looked at the bike builder option on the Ribble site, it looks like it comes out at £1099 with 105, so not massively over your intended budget, and whilst I agree with the post re buy the best frame and then upgrade the parts, unless you literally wait for them to wear out you are essentially spending money on some parts twice. At £100 over your budget, if you think 105 is the way to go, I'd wait and buy in that spec to begin with, hopefully avoiding the 'buy cheap, buy twice' scenario.
  • diamonddog
    diamonddog Posts: 3,426
    mattyarse wrote:
    At £100 over your budget, if you think 105 is the way to go, I'd wait and buy in that spec to begin with, hopefully avoiding the 'buy cheap, buy twice' scenario.
    ^^This, buy the best groupset you can afford on the frame you select.
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Depends on what you lose by 'scrimping' - in the case of Campag, there is no functional difference all the way from Veloce to Athena (aside from the latters extra cog). So there is little practical gain to be had by paying for the more expensive groupsets.

    Maybe there is more difference between the Shimano groupsets but I'd personally get the better frame.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • edhornby
    edhornby Posts: 1,780
    the difference between sora / tiagra isn't that big either - current 105 has good shifters and a better chainset but I wouldn't at this price point - as Rolf says, spend the money on the best frame and wheels
    "I get paid to make other people suffer on my wheel, how good is that"
    --Jens Voight