Front Derailleur

Neil_aky

I have just replace the crankset on my 26" wheel hybrid - changed a 32 / 44 to a 22 / 32 / 44, my levers are compatible with triple front chain wheel but my Front Derailleur will not swing the full range required.

Question is what do I need to look for in finding a Front Derailleur to work with my new crankset?

Will any MTB Derailleur work with this?

nicklouse

are you sure? you have undo the stops as required.

what crank and BB and what mech (part numbers make model etc etc).

Neil_aky

Thanks for quick response - see details below of setup.

Shimano Alvio Front Derailleur - the adjustment screws right out. Shimano Altus 7 / 3 speed levers

http://www.hargrovescycles.co.uk/products.asp?partno=43700&gclid=CJGXw-6YnLoCFTMctAodNDIAJA#.Ul73Ga69s38


Shimano Alivio M430 Octalink Triple Chainset

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-alivio-m430-octalink-triple-chainset/rp-prod58156

Shimano ES25 Octalink Bottom Bracket (118mm)

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-es25-octalink-bottom-bracket/rp-prod34653

Rear Derailluer is Shimano Altus with a 7 speed 11 - 28 cassette.

nicklouse

ok so what is not actually happening as i can see nothing wrong with the cranks and BB
and the front mech should be ok.

Neil_aky

Just been having another go... It can move from smallest to middle ring but is at it's max before it reaches the largest ring.

Having a closer look, when I set it low enough on the frame so that the chain has clearance to the bottom of the cage, the cage can't clear the largest chainring...?

nicklouse

so first set it up on the big ring. moving by hand.

then attach the cable and tension ...........

Neil_aky

OK... I was starting on the smallest ring and taking up the slack in the cable.

I'll have another go tomorrow night starting on the largest ring.

What about the cage hitting the chainring / chain hitting the bottom of the cage? May I need a derailleur with a longer drop? Does that question even make sense...

nicklouse

read the How to on Parktools (if it is back up) or download the setting up info from Shimanos webby.

carbonkid

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

97th choice

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

carbonkid

97th choice wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

Er change the cassette

cooldad

carbonkid wrote:

97th choice wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

Er change the cassette

Er and the shifters, mech, chain, crankset etc?
Does your brain hurt as well?

carbonkid

Take the shifter off take small chain rings off and buy new chain.

carbonkid

cooldad wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

97th choice wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

Er change the cassette

Er and the shifters, mech, chain, crankset etc?
Does your brain hurt as well?

As well as what?

cooldad

carbonkid wrote:

Take the shifter off take small chain rings off and buy new chain.

How do you change gears on your hypothetical new 10 speed cassette without a shifter?

But just to save you additional brain damage, you are aware that 10 speed stuff is not compatible with 7/8/9 speed stuff?

cooldad

carbonkid wrote:

cooldad wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

97th choice wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

Er change the cassette

Er and the shifters, mech, chain, crankset etc?
Does your brain hurt as well?

As well as what?

As well as not working very well.

pesky_jones

cooldad wrote:

But just to save you additional brain damage, you are aware that 10 speed stuff is not compatible with 7/8/9 speed stuff?

What about a 9 speed hub and 10 speed cassette

...I know I'm being a dick

carbonkid

cooldad wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

cooldad wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

97th choice wrote:

carbonkid wrote:

Take it off and throw it in the bin. Is 1x10 not enough for most if not all things?

what the hell use is that statement to someone with a 7 speed cassette?

Er change the cassette

Er and the shifters, mech, chain, crankset etc?
Does your brain hurt as well?

As well as what?

As well as not working very well.

Just sayin change to a 1x10 set up. Dont think that makes me stupid. Every nasty bitchey post of yours I read just confirms to me that in reality you are a bell end

cooldad

Better a bellend than an idiot. You did notice it's a hybrid?

carbonkid

Unlike you I dont really care as I have a life and I think I would rather be stupid than rattle around in your big mouth

cooldad

carbonkid wrote:

Unlike you I dont really think. I would rather be stupid

And there's your problem.

BigAl

Of course this may just be a coincidence.

Re-arrange 'carbonkid' and you'll get 'A born dick'

97th choice

carbonkid wrote:

Just sayin change to a 1x10 set up. Dont think that makes me stupid. Every nasty bitchey post of yours I read just confirms to me that in reality you are a bell end

If this is the quality of your suggestions I think I'd prefer cooldad's sarcasm.

cooldad

sar·casm - noun \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\ : Your body's natural defense against stupid.

Neil_aky

Thanks for all the 'suggestions' (sarcasm).

Nicklouse, thanks for your quick responses, I got it set up - think I've just been lucky in the past and the triple with a 22 teeth difference makes it a bit more tricky to setup.

I think the key was aligning to the smaller chain-ring with the cable disconnected, then taking the slack out of the cable. I was setting the bottom chain ring with the cable connected and running out of adjustment at the top end.

carbonkid

Mod Edit

Carbonkid watch the way you talk/reply to people, behave or we can show you the door! :roll:

cooldad

That's nasty stuff to say about the OP.

Neil_aky

I missed what he said about me...!

cooldad

Don't worry I think he was talking about me actually, just wasn't very clear.