Replacement 9mm (5mm) QR Skewer

jerryfudd
jerryfudd Posts: 343
edited October 2013 in MTB buying advice
Hi,

My folding Montague Paratrooper (as seen via signiture links) uses a vertical steel CLIX skewer to hold the fold system shut and this morning the skewer snapped..... I've just put in a standard Shimano front QR skewer for now but was debating about replacing it with a DT Swiss RWS 9mm skewer (unfortunately not the 9mm thru bolt, the standard 5mm skewer).

Is there much advantage with these? I have the 9/10mm thru bolt system on my other bike and love it but not sure about the normal 5mm skewers... also as its vertically mounted I guess the stresses would be different?

Lastly if i went RWS is there much difference in strength between the steel and titanum version - will the steel rust? I'm not bothered about weight just strength.

thanks,

Dan
2013 Cotic Bfe

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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Shimano are as good and strong as you’ll get.
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  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    cooldad wrote:
    Shimano are as good and strong as you’ll get.

    ...thats what i thought would be said - if i put it a different way and said that I wanted one that was also a bit more asthetically pleasing? :)

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    jerryfudd wrote:
    cooldad wrote:
    Shimano are as good and strong as you’ll get.

    ...thats what i thought would be said - if i put it a different way and said that I wanted one that was also a bit more asthetically pleasing? :)

    Dan
    buy a more expensive shimano one.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,816
    +1, XT can be had for about £8-10, or XTR for about £30ish if you must!

    It's not only holding your frame in shape, but any movement will lead to wear and difficulties in the future, why would you fit anything but the best?
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    The Rookie wrote:
    +1, XT can be had for about £8-10, or XTR for about £30ish if you must!

    It's not only holding your frame in shape, but any movement will lead to wear and difficulties in the future, why would you fit anything but the best?

    Going down the Shimano route is there much difference between the Deore and XT/XTR bar weight saving?

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,816
    None at all except weight, XT is about 12g lighter than Deore, XTR about another 8 g lighter (fronts, not 100% sure on rears), the non series steel ones are quite a bit heavier but still work just as well.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    Does this seem any good? I'm tempted but theres no mention of grades or tech info...... to be honest i wouldnt even know how to tell if it was titanium or as strong as they say even if i had it in my hands :oops:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Montague-Paratrooper-Military-bike-Titanium-CLIX-quick-release-replacement-kit-/200972973434

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,816
    External cam, so won't clamp as well as Shimano, also Ti stretches more than steel so is a poor material for QR's.

    How about this (assuming you need a rear!)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimano-XT-Re ... 1c37a1b6dd
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    The Rookie wrote:
    External cam, so won't clamp as well as Shimano, also Ti stretches more than steel so is a poor material for QR's.

    How about this (assuming you need a rear!)
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shimano-XT-Re ... 1c37a1b6dd

    oh right, does external make much difference to the clamping? ....its actually a front that fits best and i think if im staying shimano id probably best off keeping the one that the guy in Evans generously gave me for free this morning

    it looks just like this....

    shimano-skewer-rear-steel-black.jpg

    just need to supress that inner bike tart lol

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    You are concerned with looks? Seriously?
    paratrooperlg.jpg
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,816
    That's non series and steel, the Deore is a reasonable weight saving as the head and lever are ally - and looks a bit prettier and is slightly smaller, above that XT/R look the same but for the logo.

    Internal cam have about double the leverage ratio of external, so the clamping force for any given lever load (push with your sausages) is about double.....all good for a folding frame!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    cooldad wrote:
    You are concerned with looks? Seriously?
    paratrooperlg.jpg

    fair point, each to their own i guess but i quite like it..... either way i think it looks much better than the brompton and dahon i've had and you'd be surprised how many people are interested in it - and not to say it looks sh*te lol

    needs must and all that as i need to commute on the train during peak times with it.

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    anyone heard of Reynold's skewers? looks like the campagnolo but cant see one for sale... trying to get away from the handle being just on one side of the cam.

    http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/produ ... _QR_Skewer

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,673
    jerryfudd wrote:
    anyone heard of Reynold's skewers? looks like the campagnolo but cant see one for sale... trying to get away from the handle being just on one side of the cam.

    http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/produ ... _QR_Skewer

    Dan
    again an open design so not the best. and poor weight.

    http://www.halowheels.com/products/part/HUHAQRK lighter but the same design (factory).
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    nicklouse wrote:
    jerryfudd wrote:
    anyone heard of Reynold's skewers? looks like the campagnolo but cant see one for sale... trying to get away from the handle being just on one side of the cam.

    http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/produ ... _QR_Skewer

    Dan
    again an open design so not the best. and poor weight.

    http://www.halowheels.com/products/part/HUHAQRK lighter but the same design (factory).

    oh right, i thought it looked like the same internal cam design as the shimanos.

    prod_51885.png

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,816
    As you can clearly see the cam mechanism it is external, the shimano mechanism is inside the metal bit and internal.....
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • jerryfudd
    jerryfudd Posts: 343
    The Rookie wrote:
    As you can clearly see the cam mechanism it is external, the shimano mechanism is inside the metal bit and internal.....

    yes, my bad.... i was looking at the top and not at the contact plate.

    Dan
    2013 Cotic Bfe

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