Which wheels?

theboybuchan
theboybuchan Posts: 13
edited October 2013 in Road buying advice
I'm taking the plunge and upgrading my stock wheels (Mavic cxp-22) in the next couple of weeks. I've a limited budget and have narrowed it down to either of these. Both seem similar in paper, so was wonder which would be best to go with? Or if anyone can recommend similar... Ta

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k632/a ... 1-m10.html
or
http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k632/a ... tails.html

:)

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  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    If these are to be your only set of wheels and the Mavics are still okay, then I would wait until after winter.
    http://www.stuartmole.co.uk/
  • theboybuchan
    theboybuchan Posts: 13
    Was going to keep the cxp-22 for winter riding and get the others for racing/summer... Just want to get them now whilst I have the cash.
  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    theboybuchan wrote:
    Was going to keep the cxp-22 for winter riding and get the others for racing/summer... Just want to get them now whilst I have the cash.

    I know that feeling...... :wink:

    Probably someone like Ugo will be along later to offer advice. Might be that they say save a little more for handbuilts though....
    Something like an Ambrosio hub and Excellight rims which will end up being a little over £300
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  • buckles
    buckles Posts: 694
    southdownswolf wrote:
    theboybuchan wrote:
    Was going to keep the cxp-22 for winter riding and get the others for racing/summer... Just want to get them now whilst I have the cash.

    I know that feeling...... :wink:

    Probably someone like Ugo will be along later to offer advice. Might be that they say save a little more for handbuilts though....
    Something like an Ambrosio hub and Excellight rims which will end up being a little over £300
    Which I happen to be selling for £160!
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  • southdownswolf
    southdownswolf Posts: 1,525
    Buckles wrote:
    southdownswolf wrote:
    theboybuchan wrote:
    Was going to keep the cxp-22 for winter riding and get the others for racing/summer... Just want to get them now whilst I have the cash.

    I know that feeling...... :wink:

    Probably someone like Ugo will be along later to offer advice. Might be that they say save a little more for handbuilts though....
    Something like an Ambrosio hub and Excellight rims which will end up being a little over £300
    Which I happen to be selling for £160!

    Do I get commission? :wink:
    http://www.stuartmole.co.uk/
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    For summer use, get something with 23 mm wide rims... they are very smooth and comfy, just handle better and make you feel more in control, you end up being faster downhill, you enjoy your riding more, you might even avoid a crash or two...

    All these factory wheels with deepish rims, made so that you can show a bigger logo, so they get free advertising space... and of course in return you get 1/4 mph alleged aerodynamic advantage in between a spoke snap and the next... I mean... really? :?
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  • theboybuchan
    theboybuchan Posts: 13
    These were my other option...

    http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/a81795/.html
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    theboybuchan wrote:
    These were my other option...

    http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/a81795/.html

    Oh no, not the Equipe. 5 years ago they were pretty decent wheels, but now they are really obsolete and heavy and feel dead and they're not particularly strong either... I think in the Mavic range they are the worst wheels pound for pound.
    I said my piece, I can't go on or I will be accused to bang on the hand built drum... :wink:
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  • wishitwasallflat
    wishitwasallflat Posts: 2,927
    Bang that drum Ugo you know its right!
  • cycleclinic
    cycleclinic Posts: 6,865
    There are a number of handbuilt options that would weigh in at a similar ammount and if we knew more about the OP then spoke count advise would come.

    As to which of those Mavics would be best I am not too sure I actually care. They do not do it for me. Also when did 1770g for the cosmic elite become light (that's what the blurb says) and for that you get wheels that are not that light and if a spoke goes you right off the wheels.

    The archetype 24F/28R I build on Miche hubs are lighter than that and they have more spokes. I agree with ugo's comments that the Mavic range does not offer money well spent wheels.
    I have some Kinlin XR300 wheels to build on Miche hubs and they are fair bit lighter and just as deep as the Mavic cosmics if aerodynamics is actually a concern (I would suggest it may not be).

    If factory is what what you want then maybe look at the shimano, campagnolo or fulcrum range. there are other ofcourse but they all seem much of a muchness to me.

    Or Keep you current wheels until you wear them out, then buy some new ones.
    http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.
  • rowlers
    rowlers Posts: 1,614
    Malcolm recently built me some XR-270 on Miche hubs 24/28. The come in at 1650g. They are sublime. I cannot believe how true they are. I've got quite a keen eye and cannot detect the slightest hint of movement in the rim. They look fabulous too, much better than expect tbh.
    I was going to buy some Cero summer wheels from cycle division, but I'll be dropping some more cash Malcolms way I reckon ;)
    Get in touch, great advice and wheel builds.
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  • Mike Cotty
    Mike Cotty Posts: 57
    With respect to the Equipe wheelset posts, Mavic feels that this represent a good balance of price and performance. The company invests a lot of time and effort to try and offer the best wheels at the best prices. For example, the Equipe wheels have the same high quality hub bearings as their more expensive cousins. Regarding rim shape, the depth of the Equipe rims have more to do with strength than with aerodynamics. Mavic's testing is quite rigorous and the company wants wheels like this to be tough for everyday riding. If I can be of any further assistance please PM me and I will do my very best to help.

    Ride safe,

    Mike Cotty
    (Mavic Community Manager)
    Mavic Community Manager
  • Bordeaux mastiff
    Bordeaux mastiff Posts: 1
    I to am looking into a set of the Mavic Cosmic Elite S for my Lapierre Audacio. I was slightly concerned when I learned of the combined weight of a set of wheels. Are the Mavics much over the weight of the average set of light wheels ??
  • Mike Cotty
    Mike Cotty Posts: 57
    Bordeaux mastiff wrote:
    I to am looking into a set of the Mavic Cosmic Elite S for my Lapierre Audacio. I was slightly concerned when I learned of the combined weight of a set of wheels. Are the Mavics much over the weight of the average set of light wheels ??

    The main thing to identify is what are the most important attributes in a wheelset that are important to you, and what will help compliment the type of riding that you do (normally an individual thing as we're all riding on different roads with different objectives). Is it lightweight, stiffness, aerodynamics, durability, efficiency that's most important?

    With a 30mm rim profile the main criteria for the Cosmic Elite S was to offer a versatile wheelset that would allow riders access to the advantages of an aero wheel at a competitive price and weight (1,770g pair).

    If, however, lightweight is more important than aerodynamics then I'd perhaps look at a wheelset with a shallower rim profile. A comparable wheel in Mavic's range would be the Ksyrium Equipe S at 1,690g per pair (a saving of 80g).

    I hope that helps.

    Mike Cotty
    (Mavic Community Manager)
    Mavic Community Manager
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    Or maybe stay away from Mavic pre-packaged wheels altogether, given their appalling policy on spare parts, huh? :wink:
    left the forum March 2023
  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    Or maybe stay away from Mavic pre-packaged wheels altogether, given their appalling policy on spare parts, huh? :wink:

    This. You wouldn't be live how long it took me to get a freehub for my Elites or the cost. My mate has Ksyrium's with carbon spokes which have worn at the ends (after 3k miles). Mavic want £90 a spoke. You can repair Lightweights for way less...
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,312
    Grill wrote:
    Mavic want £90 a spoke. You can repair Lightweights for way less...

    That must have been lost in translation... I am pretty sure the carbon spokes come at around 12-15 pounds a piece, which in fairness is less outrageous than what they charge for a bog standard replacement alloy rim for the Ksyrium
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  • Grill
    Grill Posts: 5,610
    Just checked with him again, and it was indeed lost in translation. However, £120 to replace 10 spokes is still pretty high. Tracomp = terrible idea
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