Latex vs butyl tubes

2poc
2poc Posts: 101
edited October 2013 in Road buying advice
Are they worth the extra cash before i hit the purchase button...

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  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    They roll nicer and make a nice tub like noise. Unless you are using Conti tyres, or in fact any non-race tyres, then there's no difference.
    However once you have fitted and inflated them you can't really move from one wheel to another due to stretch when inflated.

    I use them on my best wheels. Infuse tubs for racing so they have them in anyway (except contis)
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  • 2poc
    2poc Posts: 101
    Thanks for the info. They're for a new set of wheels: archetype, royce, open pave which are going to be my sunday bests.
  • What Nap said
    Just have to inflate them every day though
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    2POC wrote:
    Thanks for the info. They're for a new set of wheels: archetype, royce, open pave which are going to be my sunday bests.

    You'll love it then!
    Yeah you have to inflate before every use.
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  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    Worth it just for the noise!

    Perfect for a Sunday best bike, not for daily commuting due the having to pump them up every day (already said I know)
  • northpole
    northpole Posts: 1,499
    They are a complete pain in the @rse. Just a matter of time before you rip the valve head off as they really do need to be topped up every day. If you are only using on the weekend, they will virtually be flat each time you want to use them. I won't be buying them again!

    Peter
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Wtf? I check my tyres every time I ride anyway, I've never ripped a valve head off. You must be doing something very wrong!
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  • Love a bit of latex esp on Fortezza triceps.
  • russyh
    russyh Posts: 1,375
    I use them, and love them. But as above you will need to pump every ride.
  • chaos75
    chaos75 Posts: 72
    They sound cool, how often do you have to pump them up? :wink:
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    Every ride
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  • northpole
    northpole Posts: 1,499
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Wtf? I check my tyres every time I ride anyway, I've never ripped a valve head off. You must be doing something very wrong!

    I check mine too, but with 'normal' tubes I don't have to use a pump more than once a week, unless there's a problem. I don't rip the valves off, but the probability of doing so would greatly increase if I were to attach a pump head every single day (I commute daily).

    Peter
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    northpole wrote:
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Wtf? I check my tyres every time I ride anyway, I've never ripped a valve head off. You must be doing something very wrong!

    I check mine too, but with 'normal' tubes I don't have to use a pump more than once a week, unless there's a problem. I don't rip the valves off, but the probability of doing so would greatly increase if I were to attach a pump head every single day (I commute daily).

    Peter

    I don't use latex tubes on my commuting bike and if I only had one set of wheels I wouldn't use them. And using a pump for 30 seconds is hardly a hardship!
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    I use them on race/best wheels - I can't say I notice a great deal of difference but for a minimal extra outlay it seems silly not to if you've spent a decent amount on your bike. I've never damaged a valve with a track pump - direct fit (non-hose) mini and frame fit pumps yes but then who uses them to put air in their tyres at home?
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  • Strith
    Strith Posts: 541
    I use them on my race/best wheels too with fortezza tricomps at the mo. No difference to me either.
    The need to pump them all the time is irrelevant to me as they're not used every day, and I would do the same with butyl tubes.
  • napoleond
    napoleond Posts: 5,992
    You don't even get the whooshing sound?
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  • 2poc
    2poc Posts: 101
    So in theory if i'm in the saddle for 12+ hours (Marmotte, Etape et al) they may need inflating during the day? If so i may stick with butyl
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    2POC wrote:
    So in theory if i'm in the saddle for 12+ hours (Marmotte, Etape et al) they may need inflating during the day? If so i may stick with butyl

    You will experience a small drop in pressure through the day. Most pros have latex in their tyres, the mechanics will calculate how much pressure is lost during a stage so that the sprinters have the perfect pressure for the finish line.

    So if you can do this you will feel like a pro :D
  • matt-h
    matt-h Posts: 847
    PeteMadoc wrote:
    2POC wrote:
    So in theory if i'm in the saddle for 12+ hours (Marmotte, Etape et al) they may need inflating during the day? If so i may stick with butyl

    You will experience a small drop in pressure through the day. Most pros have latex in their tyres, the mechanics will calculate how much pressure is lost during a stage so that the sprinters have the perfect pressure for the finish line.

    So if you can do this you will feel like a pro :D

    Would most pro's not have tubs?

    Matt
  • matt-h wrote:

    Would most pro's not have tubs?

    Matt

    Whoooooosh
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • petemadoc
    petemadoc Posts: 2,331
    matt-h wrote:
    Would most pro's not have tubs?

    Matt

    Tubs usually have a latex tube inside
  • matt-h
    matt-h Posts: 847
    ah :oops: ok :oops:

    They are not constructed as i first thought then.
    I assumed they were more like MTB tubeless rather than tubular
    My bad

    Matt