Deep Rim...Winter bike question....

WarlKicken

Hullo There,

Just wondering; I purchased some 50mm rim Campags and am absolutely loving them! Now the nights are closing in, and the weather is of a more damp complexion, should I stick them back in the wheel bags for the Winter or is it completely irrelevant? If it's a stupid question, apologies, but I had an ex-pro debating the deep rims in the rain, due to potential for water getting in etc.

Also, why do people switch to a 'Winter' bike. Is it purely due to dirt, etc or something more sinister (some form of integral damage)? I'm running a Pina ROKH as a weekend rider as apposed to my commuter but that's just due to bumps against buses

Any advise is much appreciated
KW

sloppyschleckonds

Hullo

Anything you want to keep nice, don't use in winter.

Adviced.
SS

WarlKicken

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

Hullo

Anything you want to keep nice, don't use in winter.

Adviced.
SS

Christ, that's the whole bike

WarlKicken

[quote="SloppySchleckonds"
Adviced.
SS[/quote]

Brilliant

morstar

Ask yourself honestly what is your attitude to your equipment.
If you upgrade / replace regularly because you like up to date kit and can afford it then use them. If you want them to last as well as could possibly be expected, don't.
No point not really getting good use out of them if you'll be buying new again next year.

WarlKicken

I had a shower with my bike earlier. Think I'm good thanks for the explanations x

supermurph09

Was the ex pro Magnus Backstedt?

greg66_tri_v2.0

I prefer to think in terms of dry weather bike and wet weather bike, than summer and winter bike. Wet roads result in a lot of grit being kicked up into your drivetrain, bearings and brake blocks/rims. it doesn't matter whether it's summer rain or winter rain.

As for deep rims, x-winds can be an issue - it tends to be windier in autumn and winter. A nice warm stable high pressure system doesn't make for a windy day. If you have a carbon brake track, you don't want to be out in the wet if you can avoid it. And then there's the issue of getting into the rim, though you should be able to get it out again if you try hard enough.

WarlKicken

Greg66 Tri v2.0 wrote:

I prefer to think in terms of dry weather bike and wet weather bike, than summer and winter bike. Wet roads result in a lot of grit being kicked up into your drivetrain, bearings and brake blocks/rims. it doesn't matter whether it's summer rain or winter rain.

As for deep rims, x-winds can be an issue - it tends to be windier in autumn and winter. A nice warm stable high pressure system doesn't make for a windy day. If you have a carbon brake track, you don't want to be out in the wet if you can avoid it. And then there's the issue of getting into the rim, though you should be able to get it out again if you try hard enough.

Perfect. ThankYou. I was literally thinking the same thing. Went out today on the ROKH and got caught in a shower, lovely day other than that. Tomorrow will rain from the off, maybe use the baby Pinarello? It's so flippin' heavy and I planned a lovely first attempt at the Leith Hill adventure tomorrow....more work I guess

overlord2

Why I ride a bad weather bike.

Puncture proof tyres. Full mudguards. Relaxed geometry. Bomb proof wheels. Lights.

In the middle of January in a 20 mph snow storm you can keep your bling campag.

Unless you are either pro or loaded and have the ability to have a scooter following you why would you use a standard road bike for winter? It would be enough to put anyone off cycling for life it's a kin to asking why people don't go out in shorts and t-shirt in winter - you can but why in your right mind would you?

WarlKicken

Overlord2 wrote:

Why I ride a bad weather bike.

Puncture proof tyres. Full mudguards. Relaxed geometry. Bomb proof wheels. Lights.

In the middle of January in a 20 mph snow storm you can keep your bling campag.

Unless you are either pro or loaded and have the ability to have a scooter following you why would you use a standard road bike for winter? It would be enough to put anyone off cycling for life it's a kin to asking why people don't go out in shorts and t-shirt in winter - you can but why in your right mind would you?

I really appreciate all the advice. Thing is I've only ever had one, workhorse in the past; the ol' SCOTT Speedster S40. Now I'm privileged to have two Pinarello bikes, one being four times the price of the other...I don't wana f*ck up. I earn decent to be able to replace stuff but I saved for a long time to afford my ROKH. I guess if it's hammering it down I'll take the baby out and if it's dry....why, we have some fun shame though, I love riding the ROKH.

chris_bass

Overlord2 wrote:

it's a kin to asking why people don't go out in shorts and t-shirt in winter - you can but why in your right mind would you?

I fail to see how it is in any way like that?

It's more like asking why people don't wear full waterproofs all winter! The answer? Because a lot of the time they aren't needed!

WarlKicken

Haha. Amazing comments, cracking work.

Well...I did go out on the ROKH, I took the deep rims off and went on the expensive bike. I guess I figured; I'm not saving for three years to buy a beautiful bike to not go out when it rains on it. We lIve in England for cripes sake if that was the case I'd never be on it!!

Took it in the shower with me after and hair dried the parts that I needed to to ensure it's all sparkly again. It's all been photo documented by my baffled, amused and fair weather-riding housemate

Ha. Thanks again cats
WK

sloppyschleckonds

You do know its not winter yet don't you?

WarlKicken

SloppySchleckonds wrote:

You do know its not winter yet don't you?

Nope, the "Seasons" were a vital part of my education missed out by the cruel, unjust regime that governed my learning establishment. Someone forget to tell Mrs. Nature that in May this year when it's snowed as well. What a world we live in eh?

Monty Dog

Wheel rims wear quicker in winter due to the muck in brake blocks and water acting like grinding paste - a carbon rim will get scored-up in no time. The cr@ppy roads will shred decent tyres too.

john1967

Get out there and ride it.Contrary to popular belief it will not dissolve.Yes you will have to clean it more often but I find cleaning my beautiful bike a pleasure not a chore.

WarlKicken

john1967 wrote:

Get out there and ride it.Contrary to popular belief it will not dissolve.Yes you will have to clean it more often but I find cleaning my beautiful bike a pleasure not a chore.

Gah, a man after my own heart. Nothing like seeing it come back life!! Any ideas for grease off of a white frame???

cougie

Entirely up to you - but as has been pointed out :
1. Wear will accelerate in cruddy weather
2. You need to clean it meticulously if theres been any grit around
3. Comfier riding a bike with full mudguards in the wet
4. Roads are slippier in winter - I'd rather slide a cheaper bike than the best bike
5. Its a good enough reason to have a second bike. Everyone needs that.

Deep rims won't be fun in the wind, and as its wetter - they will fill up with rain.

dwanes

john1967 wrote:

Get out there and ride it.Contrary to popular belief it will not dissolve.Yes you will have to clean it more often but I find cleaning my beautiful bike a pleasure not a chore.

^^I am glad there is someone speaking sense on this thread.

Monty Dog

Note to self - the guy that turns up on a winter club ride with carbon wheels is:
1. more likely to puncture because he's running lightweight racing tyres less suited to riding in winter
2. when they hit a water-filled pothole, is more likely to suffer from catastrophic wheel failure

I guess that logic doesn't wash with some on here?

dwanes

1. you can run Continental GatorHardshell tyres (or similar) on Carbon wheels you know!
2. Water-filled potholes are just as easy to avoid as non-water-filled potholes, they don't move!

dwanes

avoid anything that looks like a water-filled pothole I say.