Current bike too heavy? All mountain

BigAl

RockmonkeySC wrote:

I used 4lb of carbon fibre on my frame. Its lighter than 4lb of lead so it's better

Will it last though?

rockmonkeysc

No. It will dissolve in the rain.

croptonboy

BigAl wrote:

While you're working on it, why don't you lose 20% of your body weight. It's gonna make you faster after all

Well the human brain is about 2% of your body weight, so only 18% left to go!

slickmouse wrote:

which give the greatest advantage, having lighter wheels or shedding 10lb of riders weight

Depends on:
a) How much lighter the wheels would be
b) The specifics of the riders weight loss

If you're going to expect people to show their calculations, then you have to give them a baseline to work with. Otherwise we'd ALL end up making things up as we go along :roll:

The Northern Monkey

Croptonboy wrote:

BigAl wrote:

While you're working on it, why don't you lose 20% of your body weight. It's gonna make you faster after all

Well the human brain is about 2% of your body weight, so only 18% left to go!

slickmouse wrote:

which give the greatest advantage, having lighter wheels or shedding 10lb of riders weight

Depends on:
a) How much lighter the wheels would be
b) The specifics of the riders weight loss

If you're going to expect people to show their calculations, then you have to give them a baseline to work with. Otherwise we'd ALL end up making things up as we go along :roll:

Wheels - strong, light, cheap. Pick 2.

While a lighter wheel may offer a lower rolling mass, they will either cost the earth to be strong enough or they will break (being 16st limits things).

Weight loss - I've got a big build, so losing weight isn't going to happen... not healthily anyway.

My Canyon weighs near as makes no difference 38lb. I ride it everywhere. If I was to lighten it, it would be forks and a ti spring before the wheels, because I would go for durability.

TheNorthernTrain

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Croptonboy wrote:

BigAl wrote:

While you're working on it, why don't you lose 20% of your body weight. It's gonna make you faster after all

Well the human brain is about 2% of your body weight, so only 18% left to go!

slickmouse wrote:

which give the greatest advantage, having lighter wheels or shedding 10lb of riders weight

Depends on:
a) How much lighter the wheels would be
b) The specifics of the riders weight loss

If you're going to expect people to show their calculations, then you have to give them a baseline to work with. Otherwise we'd ALL end up making things up as we go along :roll:

Wheels - strong, light, cheap. Pick 2.

While a lighter wheel may offer a lower rolling mass, they will either cost the earth to be strong enough or they will break (being 16st limits things).

Weight loss - I've got a big build, so losing weight isn't going to happen... not healthily anyway.

My Canyon weighs near as makes no difference 38lb. I ride it everywhere. If I was to lighten it, it would be forks and a ti spring before the wheels, because I would go for durability.

Ahh, but being 16st, would you notice more of a difference riding a lighter bike or if you were lighter, or would you notice if a lighter person was riding you and your bike? Which would make most difference to you?

Please show your workings.

The Northern Monkey

TheNorthernTrain wrote:

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Croptonboy wrote:

BigAl wrote:

While you're working on it, why don't you lose 20% of your body weight. It's gonna make you faster after all

Well the human brain is about 2% of your body weight, so only 18% left to go!

slickmouse wrote:

which give the greatest advantage, having lighter wheels or shedding 10lb of riders weight

Depends on:
a) How much lighter the wheels would be
b) The specifics of the riders weight loss

If you're going to expect people to show their calculations, then you have to give them a baseline to work with. Otherwise we'd ALL end up making things up as we go along :roll:

Wheels - strong, light, cheap. Pick 2.

While a lighter wheel may offer a lower rolling mass, they will either cost the earth to be strong enough or they will break (being 16st limits things).

Weight loss - I've got a big build, so losing weight isn't going to happen... not healthily anyway.

My Canyon weighs near as makes no difference 38lb. I ride it everywhere. If I was to lighten it, it would be forks and a ti spring before the wheels, because I would go for durability.

Ahh, but being 16st, would you notice more of a difference riding a lighter bike or if you were lighter, or would you notice if a lighter person was riding you and your bike? Which would make most difference to you?

Please show your workings.

N+1...

I have 2 bikes

One is light(er), but they do different things.

Jomox

Headache reading all that.

ste_t

TheNorthernTrain wrote:

The Northern Monkey wrote:

Croptonboy wrote:

BigAl wrote:

While you're working on it, why don't you lose 20% of your body weight. It's gonna make you faster after all

Well the human brain is about 2% of your body weight, so only 18% left to go!

slickmouse wrote:

which give the greatest advantage, having lighter wheels or shedding 10lb of riders weight

Depends on:
a) How much lighter the wheels would be
b) The specifics of the riders weight loss

If you're going to expect people to show their calculations, then you have to give them a baseline to work with. Otherwise we'd ALL end up making things up as we go along :roll:

Wheels - strong, light, cheap. Pick 2.

While a lighter wheel may offer a lower rolling mass, they will either cost the earth to be strong enough or they will break (being 16st limits things).

Weight loss - I've got a big build, so losing weight isn't going to happen... not healthily anyway.

My Canyon weighs near as makes no difference 38lb. I ride it everywhere. If I was to lighten it, it would be forks and a ti spring before the wheels, because I would go for durability.

Ahh, but being 16st, would you notice more of a difference riding a lighter bike or if you were lighter, or would you notice if a lighter person was riding you and your bike? Which would make most difference to you?

Please show your workings.

I wouldn't care who or what I was riding aslong as I had some chips

TheNorthernTrain

Funny that slickmouse has disappeared from this thread... I think your blunt tones made him cry.

croptonboy

I think 'coulddobetter' scared him off

cooldad

Or he read 'chips' did a Homer Simpson drool and got lost counting to potato.

BigAl

cooldad wrote:

Or he read 'chips' did a Homer Simpson drool and got lost counting to potato.

Nah, he doesn't eat chips. Make you too heavy to ride fast

ilovedirt

I'd like to point out that losing 10lbs from your body weight, which you are used to lugging around, is about 8% off the average person. Losing 10lbs from the bikes weight is about a quarter of the bike's weight. It's fairly obvious which is going to make the most difference. It's the same as taking a dump vs carrying the equivalent weight at the end of your arm. Which is going to be more noticeable? (Please don't anyone take that analogy too literally and try carrying your own poo around)

Not to mention as other people have said, rotational weight. I'm no physicist, so I couldn't even attempt to actually work it out, but it's pretty obvious that slickmouse's knowledge doesn't extend any further than GCSE science...

TheNorthernTrain

ilovedirt wrote:

I'd like to point out that losing 10lbs from your body weight, which you are used to lugging around, is about 8% off the average person. Losing 10lbs from the bikes weight is about a quarter of the bike's weight. It's fairly obvious which is going to make the most difference. It's the same as taking a dump vs carrying the equivalent weight at the end of your arm. Which is going to be more noticeable? (Please don't anyone take that analogy too literally and try carrying your own poo around)

Not to mention as other people have said, rotational weight. I'm no physicist, so I couldn't even attempt to actually work it out, but it's pretty obvious that slickmouse's knowledge doesn't extend any further than GCSE science...

But he has a liciechenience to weld planes, whatever one of those is. But it sounds important so he must be clever.

felix.london

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93ZDOcU2TL4

Ulysses

cts5555 wrote:

Thats a good answer, and answers directly my question!!

At present, im not 'enjoying' riding as im finding it extremely hard work, im not 'unfit', but also not as fit as i used to be....

More gym / saddle time needed, then i will reconsider my options!!

Thanks for the help guys

Have a go at strong lifts 5x5, 30-45mins 3 times a week .... I've gained some great strength from it. Was doing SL5x5 for a while before starting riding again, my 3rd ride (the 1st and 2nd were "round the houses" rides) in close to 15 years was a 15mile XC on a 16 year old bike, thought I was going to die and it took me nearly three hours :shock: it must have blown a few cobwebs out tohugh as I did the same route again a week later and knocked an hour off. I'm riding it again today or tomorrow, I cant wait!
Oh, and eat well, a good diet will give your body the energy it needs to keep on pushing and repair itself as it gets used to some punishment.
I'm expecting delivery of a Grand Canyon AL 29er in about 5 weeks... I'm so excited about getting to ride a modern bike

cts5555

Thanks, I've even hitting the gym pretty well last 4 weeks or so, in preperation for first ride, also gave up smoking after 15 years, on my 7th day so far and wanting to get on the bike is a big part of my motivation to keep at it!!