700x28 Tyre options

jonnyboy77
jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
edited October 2013 in Commuting chat
My rear tyre, currently shod with Continental Gatorskin rubber is starting to look very second hand so I want to replace it. Ideally ti would have been like for like, but either they're not in stock (Wiggle, Evans, CRC etc.) or they want RRP (CS).

Do I look for an alternative (so far that has proven fairly fruitless) or does someone know a good alternative source?

I did see these at Evans: Continental Gator Hardshell 700C Duraskin Wired Road Tyre
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/con ... e-ec027255

Which are not the same as what I have on at the moment (Continental Gatorskin 700C Duraskin Wired Road Tyre) and I have no experience of variant (good or bad).

Due to the rims I'm using I can't go smaller than 700x28, and I'd rather not go up in size. I like the level of grip, feel & protection that the Gatorskin offers, but with a suitable referral I'd consider something else ...

I did some searches of the Commuting section of the forums, and when looking for 700x28 discussions, and tyre discussions the Gatorskin seems to figure highly ... so I'm not confident that I won't have to suck it up and buy these: http://www.cyclesurgery.com/pws/UniqueP ... CCON0033KK and maybe keep looking for a price match option!

- Jon
Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url

Comments

  • mpdouglas
    mpdouglas Posts: 220
    I ran Schwalbe Marathon Supremes in 700x28 last year (I normally run GP 4000S 700x25) and they were good. No punctures, good grip and I like the reflective band all the way round the sidewall. I even ran them through the snow in Richmond Park and stayed upright over Ballet School hill where it was lying several inches deep.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-marath ... 5360440221

    They're 310g for the 28mm variant but a little bit extra weight over the winter is good for keeping fitness levels up - it makes you feel really fast in the Spring when you revert back to spring/summer tyres.
    "The Flying Scot"
    Commute - Boardman CXR 9.4 Di2
    Sunday Best - Canyon Ultimate SLX Disc w/ DuraAce Di2
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    If you are looking at the Gatorskins then also look at the Conti 4Seasons. I find they grip much better in the wet.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Asprilla wrote:
    If you are looking at the Gatorskins then also look at the Conti 4Seasons. I find they grip much better in the wet.

    +1 running these on my CX Felt. V nice

    Also have 23c versions on the Madone.
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  • andyrr
    andyrr Posts: 1,823
    I'm about to be in a similar situation to you : currently run the 4 Seasons front and back, front 25mm, rear 28mm (I bought that pairing just to see if they worked out ok when they were on very special offer somewhere). Been a good grippy tyre but over about 8 months of use it is now starting to cut up and I've suffered a couple of P*s so I' will be fitting a replacement soon.
    I've regularly run the cheapest Gatorskin varient that I can get hold of but normally 25mm : the 4Seasons is a grippier tyre but softer/quicker wearing. 4Seasons is dearer normally.
    Quite a few of the training/fast commuter tyres come in 23 + 25mms but don't go up to 28mm, I don't want to go much above Gatorskin weight but have found the 28mm a decent size for speed/comfort/durability.
  • I can highly recommend Schwalbe Durano Plus. The current pair have almost done 7,000 miles, mostly commuting, in the last eighteen months. I've had one puncture in the front tyre and two in the rear. They are probably due for replacement and a new pair will be going on in the next few weeks.
    I've tried Gatorskin and Bontrager Hardcase tyres in the past but none got even half way towards the Duranos.
  • Andy MG wrote:
    I can highly recommend Schwalbe Durano Plus. The current pair have almost done 7,000 miles, mostly commuting, in the last eighteen months. I've had one puncture in the front tyre and two in the rear. They are probably due for replacement and a new pair will be going on in the next few weeks.
    I've tried Gatorskin and Bontrager Hardcase tyres in the past but none got even half way towards the Duranos.

    I couldn't find Durano Plus in 700x28 configuration?

    - Jon
    Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url
  • welkman
    welkman Posts: 396
    I am liking the 25mm gp4seasons at the moment but they are a tight fit on the Cervelo S1 and come up big. Probably 4000 miles now with 1 puncture in all weathers, several serious decents in dry and wet (Alps and Solvenian Alps) and they have been great. Might race the 4000 tubular next season as all the fancy rubber punctures on our roads.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,316
    I use Conti Sport Contacts - have been on a 700 x 32c but am now moving down to a 28. they're not built like tanks but in 4 years I've only had one punture...
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    I've been using these in a 28mm:

    http://www.evanscycles.com/products/spe ... 1#features

    Three punctures (one front, two rear iirc) in ~4000miles, wet grip is good. They came with the bike and I thought I'd be wanting to replace them pretty quickly but they are durable and ended up staying on, I'll probably run them into the ground then get the smaller 23mm Roubaix Pro or the Elite with red stripes.
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    I couldn't find Durano Plus in 700x28 configuration?

    THat's funny - I have them on my commuter - best commuting tyre I've found in the 8 years I've been cycle commuting
  • jedster wrote:
    I couldn't find Durano Plus in 700x28 configuration?

    THat's funny - I have them on my commuter - best commuting tyre I've found in the 8 years I've been cycle commuting

    Not that funny ... I still can't find them in that configuration, care to share your source?

    Thanks

    Jon
    Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    jonnyboy77 wrote:
    jedster wrote:
    I couldn't find Durano Plus in 700x28 configuration?

    THat's funny - I have them on my commuter - best commuting tyre I've found in the 8 years I've been cycle commuting

    Not that funny ... I still can't find them in that configuration, care to share your source?

    Thanks

    Jon

    According to Schwalbe they don't do them in that size in the UK.

    http://www.schwalbe.co.uk/road-race/durano-plus/
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • mpdouglas
    mpdouglas Posts: 220
    "The Flying Scot"
    Commute - Boardman CXR 9.4 Di2
    Sunday Best - Canyon Ultimate SLX Disc w/ DuraAce Di2
  • jonnyboy77
    jonnyboy77 Posts: 547
    edited October 2013
    mpdouglas wrote:

    Well spotted. I'd tried bike24 but not seen bike discount before. As it turns out I am going to try the GP 4 Seasons, Cyclesurgery price matched it from £46.99(!) down to £32 ...

    10084281735_05d4dfa63a.jpg
    Conti GP 4S by jon_rice, on Flickr

    I'm still tempted to try the Durano plus at some point, though I did notice they're twice as heavy as the GP4S?

    http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticycle ... ason.shtml
    Tyre Code Dimensions Weight Rec. Inflation Pressure (psi) Max. Inflation Pressure (psi) Colour Bead SRP
    GP 4 Season 0100177 700x28 28-622 250g 95 115 All Black folding £46.95

    http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires ... urano_plus
    Art.No. ETRTO Size Performance Colour Compound PSI Weight EPI Load Tube Price
    11100176.01 28-622 700 x 28C SmartGuard Black-Reflex Dual 85-115 530 g 67 85 kg 17, 18 $58.85

    I imagine this is partly down to folding vs wired construction?

    I'll see how the GP4S goes, it will have to be good to justify the increased price over the Gatorskins!

    - Jon
    Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url
  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    Good job I'm wearing my orthopedic insoles as I stand corrected.
    Mud - Genesis Vapour CCX
    Race - Fuji Norcom Straight
    Sun - Cervelo R3
    Winter / Commute - Dolan ADX
  • Asprilla wrote:
    Good job I'm wearing my orthopedic insoles as I stand corrected.

    No I think you were right ...
    Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url
  • Durano's can be bought from ChainReactionCycles http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/schw ... -prod45443

    I've started running the 28c Durano Plus's (changed from 33x Maxxis Raze), they aren't hugely heavy & are nice to commute on, hugely grippy so far (some wet weather high speed rides through the Peaks) and great for mixed surfaces too
  • I got some Bontrager race lites. very good, 600 miles on them and know punctures so far (touch wood)

    http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/bontrage ... 40573.html
  • Managed to fit the GP4S over the weekend, it was a tighter fit than I expected but no major issues. First ride out on Weds to see how it fairs ...

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    Rubber ... by jon_rice, on Flickr
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    Rubber ... by jon_rice, on Flickr
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    Rubber ... by jon_rice, on Flickr
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  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    Very nice, looking more road worth than the top contacts. But... You should line the valve up with the (c) symbol on the tyre so when they puncture you can find the tooth quickly. It's easy to forget, I did yesterday when fitting new rubber, had to take it off and refit the tyre.
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • Very nice, looking more road worth than the top contacts. But... You should line the valve up with the (c) symbol on the tyre so when they puncture you can find the tooth quickly. It's easy to forget, I did yesterday when fitting new rubber, had to take it off and refit the tyre.

    The Top Contact Winters are fitted to some 26" rims, they have been used on the MTB and the commuter in snowier times!

    Not sure I get the lining up of the (c) symbol and the valve?

    - Jon
    Commuting between Twickenham <---> Barbican on my trusty Ridgeback Hybrid - url=http://strava.com/athletes/125938/badge]strava[/url