Cold set or replace axles?

Bozabyka
Bozabyka Posts: 252
edited September 2013 in MTB workshop & tech
My singlespeed is running 9speed wheels.
The frame was built for a five speed.
I want the wheels to fit easily (winter is coming)
I am reluctant to cold set, could I replace the axles for shorter ones?

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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    nope.

    steel frame?
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  • Bozabyka
    Bozabyka Posts: 252
    Yes it is steel
  • thelonegroover
    thelonegroover Posts: 1,073
    What do you mean by 'cold set'?
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Thelonegroover wrote:
    What do you mean by 'cold set'?
    read the info on Sheldon Browns pages about cold setting.
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  • thelonegroover
    thelonegroover Posts: 1,073
    nicklouse wrote:
    Thelonegroover wrote:
    What do you mean by 'cold set'?
    read the info on Sheldon Browns pages about cold setting.
    Would have been easier to say bend.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Except it's called cold setting......
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  • thelonegroover
    thelonegroover Posts: 1,073
    The Rookie wrote:
    Except it's called cold setting......
    I wasn't refering to the use of the correct word(s), I was refering to Nick's answer, he could have simply said it means bending.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Because bend has two meanings elastic and plastic deformation, so you can bend a frame in it's elastic zone and not achieve a plastic deformation (cold setting), so while he could have simply said bending it would be wrong.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Thelonegroover wrote:
    nicklouse wrote:
    Thelonegroover wrote:
    What do you mean by 'cold set'?
    read the info on Sheldon Browns pages about cold setting.
    Would have been easier to say bend.
    no, see above. Sheldons artical is good and should be read by anyone wanting to know about it.

    Or i could have just C&Ped it but where is the education in that?
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  • thelonegroover
    thelonegroover Posts: 1,073
    The Rookie wrote:
    Because bend has two meanings elastic and plastic deformation, so you can bend a frame in it's elastic zone and not achieve a plastic deformation (cold setting), so while he could have simply said bending it would be wrong.
    Yes, as usual members end up discussing semantics rather than the actual subject. Just wondered how long it would take for someone to respond with the technical difference between bend and cold set. To add my spoke in, I’d say, what you’re referring to is flexing, bending results in permanent deformation, flexing doesn’t.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Thelonegroover wrote:
    The Rookie wrote:
    Because bend has two meanings elastic and plastic deformation, so you can bend a frame in it's elastic zone and not achieve a plastic deformation (cold setting), so while he could have simply said bending it would be wrong.
    Yes, as usual members end up discussing semantics rather than the actual subject. Just wondered how long it would take for someone to respond with the technical difference between bend and cold set. To add my spoke in, I’d say, what you’re referring to is flexing, bending results in permanent deformation, flexing doesn’t.
    So I can't bend a ruler that snaps back when I realease the force applied? Don't be daft.

    It's not semantics, it is getting it right, you can bend (elastically) a frame to take a wider axle, but that isn't cold set.

    If the OP were advised to just bend the farme to get the wider axle in he may have done just that.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.

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