Headset help

dhooper7
dhooper7 Posts: 156
edited August 2013 in MTB buying advice
There's a lot of play up front after a week in the Alps. I've tried cleaning and pre-loading but no better.

Time for a new headset I think.

Bike is a 2011 Specialized Enduro.

I've never replaced a headset on a tapered integrated headtube before so just wanting to confirm I'm buying the right one...

Here's a picture of the removed headset.

The race is still on the fork steerer. Should I also replace this?

Would a Nukeproof Warhead 44-56IITS do the job?

Any other suggestions?
2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp

Comments

  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    I'm not sure you'd need to replace the race - the new headset would just sit on top of it wouldnt it? Are the bearings gone?

    You might of just needed to undo stem bolts, tighten star cup and retighten stem bolts.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    new headset new race,

    but just take the bearings to a bearing shop and spend pence. or read the info on the bearings and google it. or see what it says on the top cover and then get the info from the FSA headset book.
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  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    The crown race is headset specific so if you replace the headset with a different one you need to replace it as well.
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  • jairaj
    jairaj Posts: 3,009
    agree with Nick. Chances are you just need to replace the bearings and it'll be back to normal.

    And go to a bearing shop not a bike shop, other wise you'll just end up paying a fortune
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    You might of just needed to undo stem bolts, tighten star cup and retighten stem bolts.
    Already tried this...

    Okay, so if I stick with the FSA headset and replace the bearings how do I go about this. Would a bearing shop replace the whole cartridge or open it up and replace the individual ball bearings inside?

    I can't seem to find a bearing code written on the cartridges...

    I doubt this, but is there a chance the headtube could be damaged?
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    no they dont change the balls.

    what info is on the top cover?
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    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    nicklouse wrote:
    what info is on the top cover?
    FSA H2247A

    From what I can see from this catalogue that is just a part number for the top cover
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156

    Is the item one from the right part of my frame or part of the headset?
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • pesky_jones
    pesky_jones Posts: 2,890
    I assumed that was the bottom cup, with the one on the furthest right being the bearing that sat inside that cup.
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    Top bearing is TH-870 (yellow seal)

    Top bearing is TH-970 (black seal)

    £11 each. Go for it over a new headset then?
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • Chunkers1980
    Chunkers1980 Posts: 8,035
    Each? £22 in total?

    A new decent headset is £17.50.

    Depends if you have the tools to fit and remove the cups and race.
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    Each? £22 in total?

    Depends if you have the tools to fit and remove the cups and race.

    £22 for both.

    No cups to fit. Integrated tapered headtube
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    Measured all the parts and can now confirm it's an FSA No.42

    Thanks for not telling me Specialized :roll:

    Will weigh up the cost of buying a new headset vs. bearings

    Thanks for your help guys
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp
  • dhooper7
    dhooper7 Posts: 156
    Ordered the bearings only to find that one of them is 1.5mm taller than the original.

    Rung specialized only to be told it's a custom made headset by FSA and has to be ordered from them, £40.
    2011 Specialized Enduro Comp
    2014 Boardman Hybrid Comp