I can tell the difference between entry level and top of the range pedals, especially in regards to the positivity of engagement. It matters to me as well as the reduced weight.
I can tell the difference between entry level and top of the range pedals, especially in regards to the positivity of engagement. It matters to me as well as the reduced weight.
What is it that you notice, Grill? I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference!
I can tell the difference between entry level and top of the range pedals, especially in regards to the positivity of engagement. It matters to me as well as the reduced weight.
What is it that you notice, Grill? I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference!
The engagement is more positive and the lock is much more secure so no accidental unclipping or slop when pulling. They do take more effort to unclip, but I also that as a plus.
In a word, well 2 words... Speedplay Zero's.
Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
I've never really looked at speedplay pedals at all, just didnt like the look of them, and thought the pedal was too small aha. Whats so good about them then?
In a word, well 2 words... Speedplay Zero's.
Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
I've never really looked at speedplay pedals at all, just didnt like the look of them, and thought the pedal was too small aha. Whats so good about them then?
They're heavy, over-priced, and made for people who don't know how to dial in a proper cleat adjustment. :P
In a word, well 2 words... Speedplay Zero's.
Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
I've never really looked at speedplay pedals at all, just didnt like the look of them, and thought the pedal was too small aha. Whats so good about them then?
Pedal area looks small but the contact area is the cleat not the pedal size - good points -
Double sided entry
Totally adjustable free float - dial in as much or as little range of float as you want or need
Grease them every now and again and the pedal seem to last forever (mine are well over 6k miles and no sign of problems).
Not so good
Cleats don't last so long and are around £30 to replace but balance up with pedals and that seems ok to me.
In a word, well 2 words... Speedplay Zero's.
Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
I've never really looked at speedplay pedals at all, just didnt like the look of them, and thought the pedal was too small aha. Whats so good about them then?
Pedal area looks small but the contact area is the cleat not the pedal size - good points -
Double sided entry
Totally adjustable free float - dial in as much or as little range of float as you want or need
Grease them every now and again and the pedal seem to last forever (mine are well over 6k miles and no sign of problems).
Not so good
Cleats don't last so long and are around £30 to replace but balance up with pedals and that seems ok to me.
I have found that the Speedplay cleats last a reasonably long time if you don't walk in them. You can buy covers for them as well if you do find you need to walk about on them.
In a word, well 2 words... Speedplay Zero's.
Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
I've never really looked at speedplay pedals at all, just didnt like the look of them, and thought the pedal was too small aha. Whats so good about them then?
They're heavy, over-priced, and made for people who don't know how to dial in a proper cleat adjustment. :P
I've been "dialling in proper cleat adjustment" since i had a pair of Cinelli M71 pedals many, many years ago.... so to say something like that to any user of Speedplays is just ridiculous......
As others have said the proper float adjustment, positive clipping and stable platform are the real benefits. OK you can't plod up and down gravel drives without getting grit stuck in the cleat, but that's a minor issue resolved by covers.
To my mind (and i've used alot) they are far superior to all the other systems for racing and pure road riding.
I can tell the difference between entry level and top of the range pedals, especially in regards to the positivity of engagement. It matters to me as well as the reduced weight.
What is it that you notice, Grill? I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference!
The engagement is more positive and the lock is much more secure so no accidental unclipping or slop when pulling. They do take more effort to unclip, but I also that as a plus.
Where I agree that a more positive engagement is a big plus. I would think that being more difficult to unclip as a major negative point. I can clip in 99% of the time fine on 105 pedals. the 1% of the time I miss it, it takes me a few extra seconds to get going. So what? When I unclip. I am stopping. Sometimes at lights, or end of a ride. Sometimes though, its unexpectedly cos I get cut up or need to dismount to avoid something. This is more important than saving a few seconds of getting started again. So long as my pedals stay clipped in when I am cycling and unclip when I need to get my foot out sharpish then the rest is trivial.
I take it you've never accidentally unclipped when caning out of the saddle? Terrible feeling...
Really the difference in force necessary to unclip is negligible and most pedals have option to set release pressure.
Never happened to me cos I make sure they are set up correctly. I also tend to pull upwards alot when I climb unseated (as opposed to stomping downwards with opposite leg). But are you suggesting the high end pedals to which you refer are particularly hard for unclipping? because thats how you make it sound.
I have a massive amount of asymmetry, so my pedaling force is different than most.
They do require more effort, but I think it's more of something you get used to and it's not much. I use Time and you can adjust the release tension to 3 positions. Even after 600+ km I didn't feel that they were too difficult to unclip.
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Best pedals I've ever used. Nuff said.
What is it that you notice, Grill? I'm not sure I'd be able to tell the difference!
Agree
Haro MTB
The engagement is more positive and the lock is much more secure so no accidental unclipping or slop when pulling. They do take more effort to unclip, but I also that as a plus.
They're heavy, over-priced, and made for people who don't know how to dial in a proper cleat adjustment. :P
Pedal area looks small but the contact area is the cleat not the pedal size - good points -
Double sided entry
Totally adjustable free float - dial in as much or as little range of float as you want or need
Grease them every now and again and the pedal seem to last forever (mine are well over 6k miles and no sign of problems).
Not so good
Cleats don't last so long and are around £30 to replace but balance up with pedals and that seems ok to me.
I have found that the Speedplay cleats last a reasonably long time if you don't walk in them. You can buy covers for them as well if you do find you need to walk about on them.
I've been "dialling in proper cleat adjustment" since i had a pair of Cinelli M71 pedals many, many years ago.... so to say something like that to any user of Speedplays is just ridiculous......
As others have said the proper float adjustment, positive clipping and stable platform are the real benefits. OK you can't plod up and down gravel drives without getting grit stuck in the cleat, but that's a minor issue resolved by covers.
To my mind (and i've used alot) they are far superior to all the other systems for racing and pure road riding.
They're still heavy and overpriced. :P
Where I agree that a more positive engagement is a big plus. I would think that being more difficult to unclip as a major negative point. I can clip in 99% of the time fine on 105 pedals. the 1% of the time I miss it, it takes me a few extra seconds to get going. So what? When I unclip. I am stopping. Sometimes at lights, or end of a ride. Sometimes though, its unexpectedly cos I get cut up or need to dismount to avoid something. This is more important than saving a few seconds of getting started again. So long as my pedals stay clipped in when I am cycling and unclip when I need to get my foot out sharpish then the rest is trivial.
Really the difference in force necessary to unclip is negligible and most pedals have option to set release pressure.
Never happened to me cos I make sure they are set up correctly. I also tend to pull upwards alot when I climb unseated (as opposed to stomping downwards with opposite leg). But are you suggesting the high end pedals to which you refer are particularly hard for unclipping? because thats how you make it sound.
They do require more effort, but I think it's more of something you get used to and it's not much. I use Time and you can adjust the release tension to 3 positions. Even after 600+ km I didn't feel that they were too difficult to unclip.