Difference between these two frame designs?

esbenbuchwald

What is the actual difference (as a user) between these two frames? I understand that the price, equipment and series of gear components are different, but what about the difference between the frame constructions, is it just cosmetic or will it affect my riding experience?

Wilier Bassano



Rose Pro DX Multicross-2000



The weight is about the same, the price of the Rose is almost 350$ higher, but then it includes disc brakes, Shimano 105 components all over and the possibility to hand pick each component yourself - but the Bassano bike just looks a bit cooler

esbenbuchwald

Except from the seat stay and the top tube, the geometry of the frames look almost identical - am i right?

The Rookie

So you could spot a 2 degree difference (a big change) from those photo's?

For those who can't read Danish
http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-pr ... aid:601805

Head and seatube angles are different for different sizes of the Rose, making the photo useless for looking at geo unless you know the size.

Willier state head angle is A1, seat tube A but don't tell you want the either angle is (bone heads)

bernardmcdonald

agree with the rookie - pics mean nothing. you need to download the geometry details and look at specific lengths and angles. a 1 degree seat tube angle difference can be significant.

what impact all the numbers will have depends on what you are looking for - comfort/speed/short commute/long rides?

esbenbuchwald

Thanks for your replies - they are appreciated!

The main purpose of the bike is every day commuting through the city, with a lot of red lights etc. but in the weekends I might go for longer trips if the weather allows it. I'm going to use the bike in both summer and winter - in Denmark where I live we have 2-3 months of ice and snow every year, and a lot of rainy days.

I can't try the Rose before I buy it, because they are only sold online and in ONE store in Germany - but I can return it within a month. I've been at a lot of bike stores and tried similar bikes though! Maybe I should just buy the Rose and then go back to the store selling Bassano and try the Bassano again, after I've had the Rose for a couple of days - and then - if the Bassano feels much better, return the Rose.

esbenbuchwald

Thanks for all the replies. I ended up buying the Bassano two days ago and it's very nice!

I ordered the Rose bike 3 days ago (2 were in stock at that time), but 25 hours after ordering, I got a messages telling me that the bike was sold out in my size and that i could wait 2.5 months for their 2014 collection. I complained a little about their faulty stock status and showed them some screenshots of regular errors around the site, at the stock status indicators, but got an arrogant answer that their website was fine and that my browser was not up to date (I use the latest Chrome) - and they would not offer my any discount for the inconvenience, if I would be loyal and wait until end-october for the 2014 model, instead of buying another bike... So I went to the local store and bought the bassano right away!