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Lewis ALewis A Posts: 767
edited August 2013 in Routes
Hi all,

Just a quickie, if I can easily tackle a red cx route at a trail centre, with appropriate equipment, can I also ride a red downhill route as easily?

Cube Analog 2012 with various upgrades.


  • welshkevwelshkev Posts: 9,690
    they'll be different. but in my opinion (obviously not knowing how capable you are) if you say you can do a red xc route easily, there's not a huge step up.

    but I do know some friends of mine who I ride with on xc trails won't ride the cwmcarn red downhill trails for example. a big impact will be the bike you ride, although I've ridden downhill trails on my hardtail before.

    give it a go, what have you got to lose? :lol:
  • mcnultycopmcnultycop Posts: 2,143
    It depends, grading is different in different places.

    Red Llandegla would not translate to red at Antur.
  • welshkevwelshkev Posts: 9,690
    mcnultycop wrote:
    It depends, grading is different in different places.

    Red Llandegla would not translate to red at Antur.

    that's what he's asking. red xc and red dh are different grading systems.
  • Lewis ALewis A Posts: 767
    I was just considering what bike I should hire when (if) I go to chamonix, wouldn't want to hire a heavier bike to do downhill only to find I couldn't manage it, i did read somewhere that French grading is pretty much the same as British though...
    Cube Analog 2012 with various upgrades.
  • welshkevwelshkev Posts: 9,690
    I've never been to the alps, but a lot of my friends go and most did it on 140mm travel bikes last year, but said that 160mm-180mm would be optimum unless you're doing solely DH trails.

    that's 2nd hand info though so hopefully someone who's actually been will be able to offer some more concise advice :D
  • paul.skibumpaul.skibum Posts: 4,068
    I havent ridden Chamonix but I have ridden in PdS and surrounds - I have heard that Chamonix can be pretty hardcore but my friends used to ride off piste rather than graded tracks so not sure of their specific trails.

    In PdS a red DH route is pretty doable on a 100mm hardtail but wouldnt be your first choice if you had options - welsh trail centre grading is a bit odd I find - something red is generally very little about the nature of the trail and a lot more about the distance, exposure and risk that comes with those factors.

    Obviously you know how you ride and that is the key thing - your best bet is to work up to a red dh by trying a blue first - progression is key to any of these things. I wouldnt hire a big bike then chuck yourself down a black first run. read the trails and work out what you are into.

    I have ridden BC bike parks, the Alps and all over the UK and I pride myself in being a capable rider but my first run in lift assisted terrain is always going to be an easier one.
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