XTR shadow plus or Saint m820 Shadow plus for 1x10 setup

rave81

I would like to convert my Shimano M785 crank 2x10 into 1x10 setup. I am currently using a Shimano XTR shadow plus rear mech (long cage). My cassette is 11-36T.

I'm planning to use a 34T in the crank, now is the XTR shadow+ (long cage) is appropriate for 1x10 setup or do I need the medium cage?

I also want to find out if the Shimano Saint M820 Shadow+ is fully compatible with 11-36T cassette?

Chunkers1980

Yes long is fine, but not ideal, and Yes.

The Rookie

For a 1x10 you would normally go to a shortcage, the long will work fine but will be slightly more prone to damage (hangs lower) and also more likley to derail the chain on back pedal (as the lower jockey wheel is closer to the chainwheel), but if you already have it then......

Saint is a fair bit heavier than XTR, choose the right mech for the usage!

Chunkers1980

Actually just been looking into the last question. There is no spec sheet listed for the M820 - just the exploded diagram - other short cages list 34t max, but suspect in practice 36t will be fine.

mcnultycop

Save some cash and go Zee.

rave81

The Beginner wrote:

For a 1x10 you would normally go to a shortcage, the long will work fine but will be slightly more prone to damage (hangs lower) and also more likley to derail the chain on back pedal (as the lower jockey wheel is closer to the chainwheel), but if you already have it then......

Saint is a fair bit heavier than XTR, choose the right mech for the usage!

I never experienced with chain being derailled in my 2x10 setup, but I agree it is prone to damage, several times small twig get stuck in my long cage xtr shadow+.

I'm thing rather than buying a shorter cage, it would be feasible to purchase the medium cage spare parts that cost $40 in Australia, the only problem I have to wait 4 to 8 weeks.

If I use the long cage will it maintain the smooth shifting?

rockmonkeysc

Saint is only worth having if you need the extra strength, its a fair amount heavier than XTR and not as slick shifting.
I dont think it will work with a 36t cassette either.

The Rookie

rave81 wrote:

If I use the long cage will it maintain the smooth shifting?

Cae length is ONLY about capacity, so shifting will be unaffected by using a long where you could use a short.

Chunkers1980

Dunno, I'd still want the shortest cage possible for best shifting.

The Rookie

As the upper Jockey determines shifting and that's in pretty much the same place regardless of cage length!

cooldad

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just use it.